We are told the ozone hole is due to atmospheric chlorine, not energy consumption. Man's contribution to the atmospheric chlorine is 1/2 of 1%. (1/200th) Its like saying a robin flying in front of a tornado is the reason you lost your roof. The largest measured ozone hole was in 1968 which is inconsistent with man made causes. The next biggest hole was after the eruption of Pinatubo. Stratospheric chlorine is enormously affected by volcanic eruption. Man's contribution is miniscule in comparison.
-----Original Message----- From: David Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 5:25 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union Chuck, You are not an American by any chance are you? As a member of a country with less than 5% of the worlds population (280 million divided into 6 billion = 4.67% by my reckoning) using 60% of the worlds energy maybe you should be listened to and your viewpoint as the biggest energy user have dominance. Maybe you are right and its a con job but without people argueing and discussing it no resolution or solutions is/are ever going to evolve and resolve the problem if it exists. Personally I think its man using all these vehicles and man cutting down all the trees in the world. Or maybe its all these farting sheep down here in NZ. After all there is a big hole down here in the ozone layer near Antartica and if NZ is the closest to it there has to be a reason for it so maybe this sheep idea is not so stupid. Anyway as one of the people who live here and who is obviously one of the main contributors who am I to throw stones? B.r., David ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union > This climate change propaganda is a con job. Stop the crap. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/2001 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/2001 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/