Hi Kirk >We are told the ozone hole is due to atmospheric chlorine, not energy >consumption. Man's contribution to the atmospheric chlorine is 1/2 of 1%. >(1/200th) Its like saying a robin flying in front of a tornado is the reason >you lost your roof. >The largest measured ozone hole was in 1968 which is inconsistent with man >made causes. >The next biggest hole was after the eruption of Pinatubo. Stratospheric >chlorine is enormously affected by volcanic eruption. Man's contribution is >miniscule in comparison.
Not to disagree, but miniscule factors can have unpredictable and potentially enormous consequences in complex systems. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ >-----Original Message----- >From: David Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 5:25 PM >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [biofuel] Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union > > >Chuck, > You are not an American by any chance are you? As a member of a >country with less than 5% of the worlds population (280 million divided into >6 billion = 4.67% by my reckoning) using 60% of the worlds energy maybe you >should be listened to and your viewpoint as the biggest energy user have >dominance. Maybe you are right and its a con job but without people argueing >and discussing it no resolution or solutions is/are ever going to evolve >and resolve the problem if it exists. Personally I think its man using all >these vehicles and man cutting down all the trees in the world. Or maybe its >all these farting sheep down here in NZ. After all there is a big hole down >here in the ozone layer near Antartica and if NZ is the closest to it there >has to be a reason for it so maybe this sheep idea is not so stupid. Anyway >as one of the people who live here and who is obviously one of the main >contributors who am I to throw stones? >B.r., David > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:44 AM >Subject: Re: [biofuel] Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union > > > > This climate change propaganda is a con job. Stop the crap. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/