Atmospheric ozone over Antarctica was not measured prior to 68 (or 58. They say your memory is the second thing to go)Gordon Dobson set up the monitoring station at McMurdo. Note that atmospheric ozone is measured in Dobsons. It is believed the hole is an annual phenomena and has always been there unless you are a UN scientist and are arguing for the cessation of private property rights and we all must join to overcome problems that transcend boundaries.
That is why these phenomena are called "political science" as they are more political than science. Kirk -----Original Message----- From: David Reid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 6:05 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union Chuck, On further thoughts maybe the sheep idea is correct. Sheep didnt arrive in NZ until about 150 years ago and there definitely was no hole there or someone would have mentioned it. Perhaps we have got a lot of these lonely Scotsmen who obviously brought these animals as companions to blame. On second thoughts the number of sheep here has dropped from a high of 66 million or whatever it was in the early 70s to under 50 million today while the hole in the ozone has kept increasing so maybe these sheep arnt to blame after all. Without informed debate there is no problem as far as most people are concerned and no solutions can be arrived at or present themselves. At this stage to the outside world it appears America is not listening. You certainly cant have informed debate when the biggest and strongest participant pursues the path of might is right and I am going to do what I damn well want to do anyway. Yep Bush is the man for the job any day. His father proved that and a chip off the old block should do just as well. B.r., David ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union > This climate change propaganda is a con job. Stop the crap. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/2001 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/2001 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
