You need an updated version of Fuller's "Dymaxion" with a Yanmar and some electric hub motors.
;-) Ed B. > From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:32:41 -0400 > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Cheek to Complain / Bashing > > I don't speak for all Americans, but I have 3 kids, a dog, and usually a > friend of the kids or 2 to cart around. this means a 7 passenger vehicle. > IE, Minivan/SUV. Mine is a Ford Windstar that gets 24mpg highway. > > saw an article recently on converting a vw van to diesel engine. gotta try > that. > > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com > Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm > X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax > We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, > we borrow it from our children. > -- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana Linscott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 7:28 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Cheek to Complain / Bashing > > >> Hi Keith, >> >> Are you trying to prove or disprove my point(s)? >> >> The fact that the US infrastructure is no longer >> sufficient to handle the current traffic efficiently >> does not disprove the statements from my previous post >> you chose to include in your post. I suppose that we >> should raise our gas tax a dime or so a gal.. to allow >> us to upgrade...but as you may have noticed our >> economy is having a tough go currently...and the time >> to do so may have passed. >> >> Maybe I should not have spoken up. It seems to upset >> some people that I do not subscribe to blanket >> statements about a stereotype "American" that drive >> huge gas guzzling SUVs. I must admit that the >> statement in a previous post about Americans needing a >> good bashing upside our heads did piss me off. In >> retrospect I should not have responded as it did not >> deserve a response. >> >> By the, many of the people I know that drive gas >> guzzlers do so because they are the only autos they >> can afford to buy....used. I am sure that many more >> affluent folks also drive thier larger than normally >> needed pickups and suvs so they can tow thier boats, >> travel trailers, etc. When faced with buying a second >> car they choose a "workhorse". Many in MN own suvs for >> thier all wheel drive and high ground >> clearance...which comes in mighty handy during the >> winter months heavy snows. >> >> I am equally sure that some simply want to drive >> something large because they feel safer (ACCORDING TO >> A NEW SAFETY STUDY THE JOKE IS ON THEM)or just want to >> show off their affulence. These are not the average >> American. >> I stand by my previous statement about the >> requirements of a country with such vast distances >> over which people and things must be transported and >> the difficulty of those that live in a more compact >> continent to understand this. I am sorry if some have >> a difficult time accepting this point of veiw. >> >> Dana Linscott >> >> --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hi Dana >>> >>>> We are a huge country with vast distances over >>> which >>>> people and things must be transported. We live in >>> an >>>> energy dominated world economy. I do not disagree >>> that >>>> we might be more efficient...but that is an issue >>> that >>>> will always be there no matter how efficient we >>> get. >>>> There is always room for improvement. I am not >>>> defending inefficiency or the politics of energy. I >>>> just don't think most Europeans understand the >>> rules >>>> we must live with in such a large and spread out >>>> nation. >>>> >>>> Dana Linscott >>> >>> Er... >>> >>> Study finds traffic getting worse - May 7, 2001 >>> ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Traffic is getting worse: >>> The average >>> American spends 36 hours per year stuck in traffic, >>> up from 11 hours >>> in 1982, according to a study released Monday. And >>> rush "hour" is a >>> misnomer, with city streets and highways often >>> congested for six to >>> seven hours per day, the report found... >>> The study found the total congestion "bill" for the >>> 68 cities in 1999 >>> came to $78 billion in lost productivity, 4.5 >>> billion hours of delay >>> and 6.8 billion gallons of wasted fuel. >>> >> http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/05/07/traffic.cities/index.html >>> >>> See message # 4862, 2001 Urban Mobility Study, >>> 5/8/2001 >>> >>> Best >>> >>> Keith Addison >>> Journey to Forever >>> Handmade Projects >>> Tokyo >>> http://journeytoforever.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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