that actually sounds like a cool conversion.... Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm
Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Beggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Cheek to Complain / Bashing > You need an updated version of Fuller's "Dymaxion" with a Yanmar and some > electric hub motors. > > ;-) > > Ed B. > > > From: "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:32:41 -0400 > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Cheek to Complain / Bashing > > > > I don't speak for all Americans, but I have 3 kids, a dog, and usually a > > friend of the kids or 2 to cart around. this means a 7 passenger vehicle. > > IE, Minivan/SUV. Mine is a Ford Windstar that gets 24mpg highway. > > > > saw an article recently on converting a vw van to diesel engine. gotta try > > that. > > > > Steve Spence > > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm > > > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com > > Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm > > X10 Home Automation - http://www.webconx.com/x10 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (212) 894-3704 x3154 - voicemail/fax > > We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, > > we borrow it from our children. > > -- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dana Linscott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 7:28 PM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Cheek to Complain / Bashing > > > > > >> Hi Keith, > >> > >> Are you trying to prove or disprove my point(s)? > >> > >> The fact that the US infrastructure is no longer > >> sufficient to handle the current traffic efficiently > >> does not disprove the statements from my previous post > >> you chose to include in your post. I suppose that we > >> should raise our gas tax a dime or so a gal.. to allow > >> us to upgrade...but as you may have noticed our > >> economy is having a tough go currently...and the time > >> to do so may have passed. > >> > >> Maybe I should not have spoken up. It seems to upset > >> some people that I do not subscribe to blanket > >> statements about a stereotype "American" that drive > >> huge gas guzzling SUVs. I must admit that the > >> statement in a previous post about Americans needing a > >> good bashing upside our heads did piss me off. In > >> retrospect I should not have responded as it did not > >> deserve a response. > >> > >> By the, many of the people I know that drive gas > >> guzzlers do so because they are the only autos they > >> can afford to buy....used. I am sure that many more > >> affluent folks also drive thier larger than normally > >> needed pickups and suvs so they can tow thier boats, > >> travel trailers, etc. When faced with buying a second > >> car they choose a "workhorse". Many in MN own suvs for > >> thier all wheel drive and high ground > >> clearance...which comes in mighty handy during the > >> winter months heavy snows. > >> > >> I am equally sure that some simply want to drive > >> something large because they feel safer (ACCORDING TO > >> A NEW SAFETY STUDY THE JOKE IS ON THEM)or just want to > >> show off their affulence. These are not the average > >> American. > >> I stand by my previous statement about the > >> requirements of a country with such vast distances > >> over which people and things must be transported and > >> the difficulty of those that live in a more compact > >> continent to understand this. I am sorry if some have > >> a difficult time accepting this point of veiw. > >> > >> Dana Linscott > >> > >> --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Hi Dana > >>> > >>>> We are a huge country with vast distances over > >>> which > >>>> people and things must be transported. We live in > >>> an > >>>> energy dominated world economy. I do not disagree > >>> that > >>>> we might be more efficient...but that is an issue > >>> that > >>>> will always be there no matter how efficient we > >>> get. > >>>> There is always room for improvement. I am not > >>>> defending inefficiency or the politics of energy. I > >>>> just don't think most Europeans understand the > >>> rules > >>>> we must live with in such a large and spread out > >>>> nation. > >>>> > >>>> Dana Linscott > >>> > >>> Er... > >>> > >>> Study finds traffic getting worse - May 7, 2001 > >>> ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Traffic is getting worse: > >>> The average > >>> American spends 36 hours per year stuck in traffic, > >>> up from 11 hours > >>> in 1982, according to a study released Monday. And > >>> rush "hour" is a > >>> misnomer, with city streets and highways often > >>> congested for six to > >>> seven hours per day, the report found... > >>> The study found the total congestion "bill" for the > >>> 68 cities in 1999 > >>> came to $78 billion in lost productivity, 4.5 > >>> billion hours of delay > >>> and 6.8 billion gallons of wasted fuel. > >>> > >> http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/05/07/traffic.cities/index.html > >>> > >>> See message # 4862, 2001 Urban Mobility Study, > >>> 5/8/2001 > >>> > >>> Best > >>> > >>> Keith Addison > >>> Journey to Forever > >>> Handmade Projects > >>> Tokyo > >>> http://journeytoforever.org/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! 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