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€‹Diesel Kiki Co., Ltd. was founded as a joint venture involving
representative engine manufacturers
in Japan. Production of fuel-injection equipment
begun under the technical license agreement with
Robert Bosch GmH, Germany."
JV, production under license, like the guy said.
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On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 09:49 PM, Alan Petrillo wrote:
> I've been trying to get technical information on my injection pump for
> a
> week now, and I'm finding nothing but frustration. I've talked to 2
> Bosch reps now, and they've got me so frustrated I could chew iron and
> spit nails.
>
> First I talked to Jeff Wundel (sp?) at Robert Bosch Sales Corp. My
> request for technical information about my injection pump was answered
> by, basically, "Why would you want that?" and I got stonewalled, and
> referred to my local Bosch distributor. My local Bosch distributor
> isn't really interested in helping me, and they just tell me that the
> manual for my IP is "out of print".
>
> Then I talked to Tom Livingston at US Bosch. He's supposed to be their
> go-to guy for biodiesel questions.
>
> First he said he couldn't really help my because my IP was "built under
> lisence." This is complete BS. My injection pump was built by Diesel
> KIKI. Bosch owns Diesel KIKI, and has for about 40 years. If you want
> to find Diesel KIKI on the web you look at <bosch.co.jp>.
>
> I talked to him a bit about SVO, and he let me know in no uncertain
> terms that Bosch prohibits the use of SVO in their diesel injection
> systems, and gave me the whole littany about how it's "bad for the
> pumps, bad for the injectors, bad for the exhaust valves, bad for the
> combustion chambers, and a just plane bad idea. Vegetable oil is
> really
> not a good fuel for internal combustion engines." He told me about the
> problems of growing things in vegetable oil fuel, and how "there are
> some things in it you just can't filter out."
>
> As far as biodiesel goes, "Bosch recommends no more than a 20% blend of
> biodiesel, even with Viton seals."
>
> We talked a bit about heating SVO to make it thin enough to function in
> Bosch IP's and he said I could probably find information about it at
> "enviro-crackpots.com". That p-d me off, but I was a good boy and held
> my tongue. He'd never heard of Elsbett or Neoteric. He'd never heard
> of the vegoil-diesel list, or, aparently the Biofuels list, or the
> Infopop forum. I talked to him a little bit about the modifications
> that Elsbett and Neoteric are doing to the injectors, and his response
> was "Yeah, they're probably rebuilding them a lot." <grumble> He's
> their go-to guy for biodiesel issues, and I'm educating him.
>
> Bosch's official line is "if you want to experiment with vegetable oil
> go ahead, but you're on your own."
>
> The whole attitude I've gotten from Bosch reps is "we don't care, we
> don't have to, we're _Bosch_!" I suppose you can get away with that
> kind of attitude when you're the largest manufacturer of diesel
> injection equipment on the planet.
>
> I suppose I should have expected it from a German company. It's
> endemic
> in German business, so why should I expect Bosch to be any different.
>
> But that "enviro-crackpots.com" crack really pissed me off. It stuck
> in
> my craw, and it's still there.
>
> <GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!>
>
> I'd like very much to find Robert Bosch and chew off a piece of his
> ear.
>
> I would carbon BoschUSA a copy of this letter, but for a contact they
> have a web form, which kind of means they are professionally not
> listening. I would also carbon this to Tom Livingston, but the email
> address I have for him doesn't work.
>
> Here's a new concept for Bosch: How about instead of telling your
> customers what they can't do you listen to your customers and help them
> do what they need to do. Does that sound like a good idea?
>
> Oh, but then I forget, your customers aren't Alan Petrillo, or Morgan
> Crawford, your customers are DiamlerChrysler, Volkswagen/Audi Group,
> General Motors, Ford, and Cummins. Little guys like us are merely
> users
> of your customers' products.
>
> I get the feeling that if I told Bosch "here's a million dollars, go
> build me a fuel system to burn vegetable oil in a diesel engine" they'd
> go spend the million dollars finding reasons it couldn't be done.
>
> MORONS!
>
> </rant>
>
>
> AP
>
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