They can have great benefit but are most definitely a two edged sword! With many doctors prescribing them for every little thing the damage they are causing is very real.
Lillie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 4:45 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] [biofuels] Re: US poll about Iraq war > > Luc, > > Strong words and BS. It is a proven effect of antibiotics, that the average > life > of humans nearly doubled. I am myself a survivor, only thanks to the new > ulcer medicines. Ulcer have in the past been a substantial killer, even if it > is not so much talked about it. > > You can promote and blame what ever you want. It is much that can be > improved on the health side. You are not wrong to do so. It is however not a > contradiction to medicines that more than doubled the average human life > span (in combination with the potato). > > Hakan > > > At 04:03 16/05/2004, you wrote: > >Oh crap ! Here I go again. Health is a matter of what one does to > >one's body in the same way that a computer data base can only > >provide what is put in it. > >That said, we must go to the origins of anything in order to see > >what the subsequent elements have brought. Modern medicine (my > >father was a doctor, although I support alternative medicine)is > >based upon pharmacology, and this pharmacology is based upon > >altering the chemical balance found within the body's functions in > >order to aim at a perceived or desired effect, not always very > >succsessfully, and often deals not with the source root of the > >problem but rat5her with the symptoms never ever getting to the > >root. But WHERE did the expansion of modern pharmaceuticals come > >from ? For that we find ourselves at about the same junction as when > >Standard Oil was ordered to disband by the courts in an anti-trust > >hearing labeled at our "friend" Rockefeller. Not only did this > >Rockefeller disband his empire of Standard Oil into Exxon, Texaco, > >Mobil, Unocal ect... while remaining a controling interest at the > >head of each but he also instituted the pharmaceutical industry into > >what it has become today. Both of these conglomerate interests do > >NOT have your health and well-being at heart. The goal is profit, > >not helping anybody but themselves. > >Modern medicine has made more people sick than it has ever "cured" > >of anything, and that is the point. Not to kill you, but to see to > >it that you are profitable. Hense junk/processed foods that polute > >you, GMO crops that monopolise the world's food source and alter the > >basic gene structure while destroying indigenous species, chemicals > >that UNbalance your body's natural ability to fight for itself. All > >this is very "profitable" to those who control them, and the roads > >all lead back to "Rome" so-to-speak. > >For more on the Rockefeller dynasty and the break up of Standard Oil > >ect... check out "The Rockefeller File" found here: > ><http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/gary_allen_rocker/index.html#metatop>http://w ww.mega.nu:8080/ampp/gary_allen_rocker/index.html#metatop > >Good health is directly related to good,clean,natural food and > >natural means, this strengthens the immune system and thereby also > >strengthens the lymphatic system which is charged with the > >elimination of toxins and dead cells. When the immune and lymphatic > >systems are strong pathogens cannot enter and cause damage because > >they are met at teh door by an army of killer cells whose job it is > >to defend you against them. When the immune and lymphatic systems > >have been weakened by polluted and un-natural foods then when the > >pathogesn appear they are free to enter the body and find a place to > >nest, and once the pthogen has done that it is very opportunistic > >and will multiply until stopped or until it kills you, whichever > >comes first. > >By filling your body with polluted and substandard food you are > >being "profitable" to those who control them. When you unbalance > >your body's functions with chemical "enhancers" you open the door > >for pathogens to enter and find a home because you have weakened > >your immune functions. Once a cancerous cell has been allowed to > >settle in it multiplies and it is often then too late to stop it and > >no amount of chemotherapy or radiation treatment has been > >conclusively proven to alter the end result, being your death. > >Antibiotics are the greatest killers of the immune and lymphatic > >functions as they are indiscriminate in what they attack and > >destroy. They destroy not only the harmful bacteria, but also the > >bacteria that has a beneficial action on your body and thereby > >weakens it and the cycle regenerates. I have a study on the effects > >of antibiotic poisoning on my site completely access free; > ><http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com/probiotics.html#bios>http://www.lifer esearchuniversal.com/probiotics.html#bios > >So, to say > >that modern medicine has been beneficial to the social structure of > >any culture is erroneous and false. True medicine is a benefit and a > >boon as it treats the whole body and not only "profitable" symptoms. > > > >My two and a half cents worth. > > > >Luc > > > > > > > > > >--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Good grief Ryan! > > > > > > "Merely" saying? LOL! > > > > > > >Hey Todd et al, let's not make this personal, did you perhaps not > >see my > > > >":)?". I was merely saying that we have all benefited in the > >long run from > > > >the genocide that happened in North America in the past. One > >cannot judge > > > >history by modern standards, that's History 101! > > > > > > But that's what you're doing. > > > > > > >America is single-handedly > > > >the most innovative populace the world has ever known period. > > > > > > Is that how you measure progress? Read on, and it is how you > >measure > > > progress - your idea of progress has a capital P and is preceded > >by a > > > silent T, for "Technological". It went out the door in the > >sixties, > > > Ryan. Forty years ago the Modernist Project was deemed to have > > > failed, now it's known as the Myth of Modernism. What followed, or > > > tried to, was Post-Modernism, still only defined by what preceded > >it > > > because true progress, human progress, the real story of history, > >got > > > sidetracked (once again) by the current Neo-Liberal era, if that's > > > what it is, which "merely" compounds the failures of Modernism, > > > especially its more lethal aspects. If you don't know all this > >then > > > you're living in a sort of suburban dream out of a 1955 Reader's > > > Digest. > > > > > > >Look around > > > >you, the technology our democracy and free markets have produced > >and > > > >continue to produce have saved countless more lives, and provided > >for even > > > >more than were lost in the settling of this land. We are all > >benefiting > > > >from this, our life expectancy is much higher than even two > >generations ago, > > > >and our quality of life is unimaginable to those in the past. Do > >you like > > > >your medicine? > > > > > > That gave me a real belly-laugh! Reminded of another belly-laugh I > > > had when a doctor got furious with me and yelled "Of course we're > > > more healhy now! We have six times as many hospital beds!" I > >really > > > hope you didn't have to think about that one. > > > > > > "... our life expectancy is much higher than even two generations > > > ago..." and there lies the flaw. Go back to *before* > > > industrialisation and you find an altogether different picture. > >The > > > picture you're seeing is a prime case of your History 101, judging > > > history by modern standards. Please see: > > > > > <http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/16019/>http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/ BIOFUEL/16019/ > > > > > > Note the "please" - I hope you do read it this time, you didn't > >last > > > time, nor the time before that. > > > > > > Anyway, do you think being healthy is a matter of taking medicine? > > > Are you quite sure modern medicines are better? We certainly have > > > better diseases these days, I'll give you that, both us and the > > > biosphere we're supposed to be a part of, something of a severe > >but > > > under-reported casualty of your brand of "Progress". > > > > > > >Your efficient, convenient way of life? Your entertainment, > > > >refrigerator, how about your computer, it's software and the > >Internet? Have > > > >you ever used a phone, or turned on a light, or read a newspaper, > >or > > > >wondered about the mysteries of Space? This country has > >developed more > > > >technology than any other past or present, that we are all > >benefiting from. > > > > > > > >Furthermore, who does the world look to for justice in the > >world? Were it > > > >not the Americans who emerged victorious in WWI and WWII saving > >the world > > > >from tyranny and genocide? Did anyone else contribute more to > >the plight of > > > >the South Koreans, the Vietnamese, the Kuwaitis and Saudis, or to > >the people > > > >of Yugoslavia? Who stopped the communists from taking over the > >world? Has > > > >anyone else offered to bail out countless corrupt government > >after corrupt > > > >government, saving people from poverty, without even asking to be > >re-paid? > > > >Do I condone genocide? Of course not. But we, in this day and > >age, have > > > >all benefited from it. That is all I am saying. > > > > > > You certainly condone jingoism. > > > > > > Look at what Al Sharpton said about trade - never mind which party > >he > > > represents or whatever, just look at it: > > > > > > >Rev. Sharpton also opposes NAFTA and the World Trade > >Organization. > > > >"I disagreed with NAFTA when Clinton was in, and I think that we > > > >have come to see that that disagreement was correct," said > >Sharpton, > > > >following up on Kucinich's broadside. "I think that we cannot > >have > > > >trade policy that overlooks labor, overlooks workers' rights, > > > >overlooks environmental concerns. We can't act like just because > > > >something is trade, that also that makes it right. African- > >Americans > > > >are here on a bad trade policy." > > > > > > > >Now that's breaking it down in civilized language. The slave > >trade > > > >was fantastically lucrative, a centuries-long commerce that > >shaped > > > >every society in the Americas south of Canada and allowed Europe > >to > > > >assume its unnatural position of dominance in the world. "I'm > >here > > > >on a bad trade policy," said Rev. Al. "So just because it's > >trade, > > > >doesn't mean that it is good and it is something that we should > > > >support." > > > > > > By your reasoning, shouldn't he rather by counting the benefits > >the > > > slave trade brought him as a privileged American instead of the > > > probably impoverished "backward" African he'd have been but for > > > slavery? > > > > > > You should read the rest of that article, it sort of follows on > >from > > > what I was saying above about the Reader's Digest 1955: > > > > > <http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/28999/>http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/ BIOFUEL/28999/ > > > > > > >As for my comments on the need to reduce incentive for stability > >in the > > > >Middle East, I apologize for painting anyone on this list (who > >did not want > > > >to be painted) as working toward reducing dependency on foreign > >oil, > > > >specifically oil from the Middle East. What I meant to say, is > >that I am > > > >working to reduce our dependency on foreign oil so that we as a > >nation have > > > >less of a reason (incentive) to meddle in the affairs of the > >Middle East. > > > >As far as I can tell (and I have never been there) the region is > >fraught > > > >with religious strife, brutality, ignorance, and hatred. > > > > > > That's what they say about the US (and they're not the only ones). > > > Their case gathers much strength from the fact that so much of the > > > religious strife, brutality, ignorance, and hatred in their region > > > stems directly from US interference. > > > > > > >In short, most of > > > >the countries there seem almost laughably behind the times given > >their > > > >resources, corrupt, and no place to be if you were born with > >fallopian tubes > > > >and a uterus. Islamic law fosters fear, slows progress, and is > >easily > > > >abused by those in power. We are fighting the evil, backward, > >minority in > > > >Iraq for many reasons, oil, hope, and liberation among them. > > > > > > It's because you (pl.) think that, in the face of massive and > > > accumulating daily evidence to the contrary, that you're not only > > > making every mistake in the book plus a bunch of new ones, > >virtually > > > all of which you were warned about before you went in there, but > > > they're the very same mistakes you made 40 years ago in Vietnam. > >Some > > > people just never learn. Pity so many other people have to bear > >the > > > consequences of that. Saving the world from Communism, eh? What > > > happened to all the dominoes that were supposed to fall over when > > > Vietnam won? Oops, no dominoes. Ever think about that? > > > > > > >We have > > > >attempted to provide them with hope for a brighter future, teach > >them about > > > >democracy and free trade, so that we may watch them prosper, and > >no one can > > > >seem to get past centuries old grudges and hatred toward one > >another and us. > > > >It got so bad, one man ordered the hijacking and crashing of our > >own planes > > > >(once again our inventions) into our own skyscrapers (dido) > >because we had > > > >established a base in "The Holy Land" to promote stability in the > >region, > > > >and he couldn't handle we "Infidels" on his turf. Where were the > >Muslims > > > >after 9/11? I sure didn't hear cries of outrage and condemnation > >from their > > > >community, did you? In fact the silence, at least state-side, was > > > >deafening. We are "infidels," and every good Muslim must rid the > >world of > > > >infidels according to the Koran, am I right? So I say, "Fine, > >you want me > > > >dead? I'll fight you back by not buying your oil and watching > >you figure > > > >out the world doesn't work that way anymore and changing. > > > > > > Hopeless, it's hopeless. (Gnashing of teeth and rending of > >raiment.) > > > > > > >I buy and promote biodiesel to give the people of the Middle East > >incentive > > > >to find another line of work and move forward. As for the non- > >American > > > >majority on this list, stop and consider, for a moment where you > >would be > > > >without us. > > > > > > In a vast number of cases, happier, better off, better fed, still > > > alive. William Blum is an American historian who likes facts: > > > > > > > > <http://members.aol.com/superogue/homepage.htm>http://members.aol.com/supero gue/homepage.htm > > > Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower, by William > >Blum > > > > > > > > <http://members.aol.com/bblum6/American_holocaust.htm>http://members.aol.com /bblum6/American_holocaust.htm > > > Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War > >II, > > > by William Blum > > > > > > Everything he says there is well corroborated, but a great many > > > Americans are simply unable to accept it, it's a reality that's > >just > > > too contrary to their cherished notions. So they go on cherishing > >the > > > notions. And people elsewhere go on dying on what their tax > >dollars > > > so blindly support while they froth on about freedom and democracy > > > and all the same stuff you froth on about. > > > > > > I have to tell you something about discussion. If you want to > >discuss > > > something with people you have to listen to what they say, as they > > > listen to what you say, and then everything moves forward. If you > > > just ignore them you lose stature and soon nobody will take any > > > notice of you - just a ranter, sitting in a hole with his mind > >shut > > > yelling at people. > > > > > > This post from you strongly indicates that you took little or no > > > notice of the several responses you got. You did the same with > >your > > > post onJohn Stossel's book. You thanked me for debunking him, but > >you > > > didn't read the debunking, or you surely couldn't have said "Read > >it > > > anyway, you'll enjoy it." > > > > > > Did you read these refs in my previous response to you in this > >thread? > > > > > > >>Enough of this 2000 year code of Islamic law already, the world > >awards > > > >>progress...they'll figure it out. > > > > > > > >They did, you didn't. Maybe if the American public had done the > > > >right thing the US would have had something vaguely resembling a > > > >foreign policy over the last 50 years or so instead of sowing a > > > >trail of dragon's teeth in the Middle East and elsewhere in order > >to > > > >prop up Big Oil no matter how, a trail leading straight to 9/11 > >and > > > >beyond. > > > > > > > ><http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/32425/>http://infoarchive.net/sg > > roup/BIOFUEL/32425/ > > > > > > > >http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/27058/ > > > > > > If you had then how can you still say this? > > > > > > >It got so bad, one man ordered the hijacking and crashing of our > >own planes > > > >(once again our inventions) into our own skyscrapers (dido) > >because we had > > > >established a base in "The Holy Land" to promote stability in the > >region, > > > > > > It's utter BS. Will you read the ref Todd gave you? And respond to > > > it? Or do you prefer your cherished notions? > > > > > > This was a spiked message from a spiked member, in this thread: > > > > > > >HIKkEITH AND THE REST OF THE VOMIT lEFT > > > > > > > >TODAY, MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WITNESSED THE THE TORTURE MURDER OF > >ANOTHER > > > >INNOCENT AMERICAN AT THE HANDS OF THESE LOWLIFE BARBARIANS BENT > >ON > > > >DESTROYING THE US.IN THE MEANTIME, ALL YOU GUYS CAN DO IS RUN > >DOWN YOUR > > > >COUNTRY WITH EVERY BREATH YOU TAKE .NOVEMBER WILL COME AND YOU > >WILL BE > > > >CRYING AGAIN. BUT I, FOR ONE, CANNOT STOMACH THOSE,. LIKE YOU AND > >THE REST > > > >OF THE VOMIT LEFT, THAT LIVE UNDER THE BENEFITS OF THE FREEST, > >FAIREST AND > > > >MOST COMPASSIONATE COUNTRY THAT HAS EVER EXISTED BAD MOUTHING IT > >AND WORST > > > >BAD MOUTHING IT IN TIMES OF WA.R A WAR BROUGHT UPON IS BY THE > >SICK AGRESSION > > > >OF FIENDS BENT ON TO TAKING THE WORLD, BACK TO 7TH CENTURY > > > > > > > >SO TAKE YOU LIST AND SHOVE IT > > > > > > His tone and style and yours could hardly be more different, but > >what > > > about the content, Ryan? Not much to choose, eh? How do you feel > > > about that? > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > > > > >Ryan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: appalenergy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 8:50 AM > > > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: [biofuel] Re: US poll about Iraq war > > > > > > > > > > > > Crikey Ryan! > > > > > > > > Did you read what you wrote? Do you even understand what it is > >that > > > > you communicated? > > > > > > > > How distored a perspective can you have when you say > > > > > > > > > that much more good has come from our use > > > > > of the land for the good of the world, than from the natives > >who > > > > inhabited > > > > > it previously. > > > > > > > > And to justify such a statement of arrogance by trying to lay > >guilt > > > > on the doorsteps of those who came after such slaughter? How > > > > disconnected and disjointed can a human being's thought > >processes be? > > > > > > > > Benefitted? Haven't you figured out that the mindless > >and "depraved > > > > philosophy" of Manifest Destiny is something that global > >society is > > > > suffering the consequences from to this very day? Not to mention > > > > that it's acceptance and implementation in one era smooths the > >path > > > > for its implementation in every generation thereafter. > > > > > > > > Get real for a moment. It's somehow okay to slaughter and > > > > displace "the poor, savage, barbaric, nomadic ... natives" who > > > > cannot withstand overwhelming numbers, unimaginable weaponry and > > > > devastating disease? > > > > > > > > Who the hell are you or anyone else to pass such judgement? > > > > > > > > Wake up for Christ's sake!!! And everyone elses. Standing up for > > > > a "depraved philosophy that states we are morally compelled by > >God > > > > Almighty to kill weaker people and steal their land" is every > >bit as > > > > immoral and depraved as those who swing the sword, obliterate > >food > > > > supplies or intentionally seed blankets with smallpox - or any > > > > similar actions. > > > > > > > > And then you move on and take issue with applications of similar > > > > policies of arrogance in the present day? Something sure isn't > >wound > > > > and tensioned properly in your upstairs orbit if you can on the > >one > > > > hand see the insanity of Bush's implementation of Jacksonian > >policy > > > > but still endorse or justify such aberrations in historical > >context. > > > > > > > > Somehow you need to get a mental, emotional and even spiritual > >grip > > > > and start understanding that all those dead, maimed and > >displaced > > > > persons from previous generations that you so easily dismiss > >were as > > > > human as you are at this very moment - and judging by your > >words, > > > > perhaps more so in many respects. > > > > > > > > One can only wonder how you would perceive history if you were a > > > > mother or child or infant or weathered elder on the receiving > >end of > > > > a saber or bullet sent from "god." > > > > > > > > What are now "ghosts" were once brothers and sisters. And > >neither > > > > you nor anyone else has ever possessed the right to wave your > >hand > > > > and state that their murder is or was justified. > > > > > > > > As for your dismally blind and sweepingly general perspective > >on how > > > > well off the indigenous peoples of the North American continent > >are > > > > today or what the traits of a broadened education are? > > > > > > > > Whatever it is that you're smoking you need to put it down and > >take > > > > a long walk back into the world of reality. > > > > > > > > Todd Swearingen > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Ryan Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >wrote: > > > > > All I can add in our defense, is that much more good has come > >from > > > > our use > > > > > of the land for the good of the world, than from the natives > >who > > > > inhabited > > > > > it previously. Yes, you too have benefited from Jackson' s > >quest, > > > > so find a > > > > > better argument about the poor, savage, barbaric, nomadic > >though > > > > culturally > > > > > rich natives who fell easily to manifest destiny. Their > >children > > > > are being > > > > > well taken care of, and now have the benefit of electricity, > > > > inexpensive > > > > > housing, internal combustion, oh, and beer. :) > > > > > > > > > > Also, we sure picked a loser for a President in 2000, good > >thing > > > > we can kick > > > > > him out of office in 2004. How many other countries refresh > >their > > > > > leadership on such a regular basis? I agree with some who > >think > > > > his entire > > > > > administration should be behind bars for the atrocities, > > > > corruption, and > > > > > fleecing of not only the American public, but the entire > >world. I > > > > am > > > > > ashamed to be associated with our false President and his > >cabinet > > > > these > > > > > days, but proud that I voted for Al Gore, and rightly so...as > >it > > > > turns out. > > > > > Is Kerry the answer? Maybe, but at least he will choose an > > > > entirely > > > > > different administration and get those crocked-good-for- > >nothin' > > > > Ashcrofts, > > > > > Rumsfelds, and Cheneys out of positions of power. When push > >comes > > > > to shove, > > > > > and believe me it has! The American public will do the right > > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > In the mean time, we're all [here on this list] are just doing > > > > what we can > > > > > to reduce the need for foreign oil, to take the incentive > >away from > > > > > stability in the Middle East. Personally I look forward to > >the > > > > day when the > > > > > economics of the region make it impossible to inhabit the > >area, at > > > > least on > > > > > the same scale. Where will all of those people go? Well, > >they > > > > may just > > > > > have to assimilate elsewhere, obey the law, get a job, and act > > > > respectable. > > > > > Enough of this 2000 year code of Islamic law already, the > >world > > > > awards > > > > > progress...they'll figure it out. > > > > > > > > > > Please note I don't hate Native Americans or Muslim > >populations in > > > > general, > > > > > I believe all people are generally good, and have gone > >through the > > > > four > > > > > years of feminist based philosophy that is State-sponsored > > > > University here > > > > > in the US. With that said- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Flame away dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > Ryan :) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:57 PM > > > > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] US poll about Iraq war > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not ask the Israelis Ted? > > > > > > > > > > No. Wait. They haven't figured out their little problem yet > > > > either. > > > > > > > > > > Many don't agree with the analogy of Iraq being another > >Viet Nam. > > > > > > > > > > Rather, the comparison to the Gaza Strip or the West Bank > >is more > > > > > appropriate - continual attrition, continual hate, continual > > > > oppression, > > > > > continual occupation. > > > > > > > > > > But heck. The US has been very good at oppression, > >occupation > > > > and even > > > > > genocide throughout its "illustrious" past. Just ask any > > > > American native. > > > > > And for that? Jackson got his picture on the $20. > > > > > > > > > > One very queer country that pays homage to those who are the > > > > architects of > > > > > such sweeping devastation. > > > > > > > > > > Todd Swearingen > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Ted Dinkelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:02 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] US poll about Iraq war > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As the poll states, the majority think this is a bad > >idea. My > > > > question > > > > > is > > > > > how do we get out of it? Just quiting and going home would > >be a > > > > worse > > > > > situation and staying will cost many lives on all sides. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ted > > > > > > > > > > > > Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just saw the latest gallup polls about the Iraq war and > >Bush > > > > handling > > > > > of > > > > > > it. As we said the whole time, "it were and is a bad idea > >to > > > > > unilaterally > > > > > > occupy Iraq". Now finally a majority of the American > >people > > > > seems to > > > > > agree > > > > > > with it and that Bush is not capable to handle it. Now we > > > > cannot find > > > > > any > > > > > > majority population of any country in the world, who > >think > > > > that the > > > > > Iraq > > > > > > occupation was or is a good idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > We also find some fine ways of which the OPEC countries > >show > > > > their > > > > > opinion > > > > > > of what is happening. They are signing up the major > > > > development of > > > > > Natural > > > > > > Gas with other countries, like Russia and China, and when > >US > > > > finally > > > > > have > > > > > > transport capacity for NG, they will have difficulties to > >buy > > > > enough. > > > > > The > > > > > > same is happening on new oil exploration. They also have > > > > difficulties in > > > > > > delivering more oil to US. This is not a surprise, if the > > > > proponents of > > > > > the > > > > > > opinion that we at the moment experience the Hubbert peak > >of > > > > oil > > > > > > production. The other possibility is that the oil > >producing > > > > countries > > > > > > prefer to sell to China, than to US. My personal opinion > >is > > > > that, even > > > > > if > > > > > > they wanted, they cannot meet the growing demand in US > >and the > > > > world. US > > > > > is > > > > > > not only buying to meet higher demands, but is also buying > > > > desperately > > > > > for > > > > > > filling up their strategic storage reserve, that way > >pushing > > > > prices > > > > > higher. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hakan > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. 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