I think CSC, Anti-Fossil, Guag, and all our readers have good points. And because we readers have common interests and sensibilities it is good to have a debate.
Each country and more importantly each individual possess a value in our world. CSC-Propulsion has probably seen more of the ugly things of the world than me and understand the points. And Anti-Fossil understands the benefits of maintaining balance. Together we can make change and I think that is probably why Journey to Forever website was formed (thank you Keith and Midori). As JTF readers, Let us set some goals this New Year of doing at least a few great things. My goals for you all are: 1) To finalize and summarize the costs and approach to buying an orphan vacated U.S. gas station and converting it into a clean fuel/biodiesel gas station, including incentives from DOE, commercial credit, maybe a co-op, and other various factors. 2) I plan to "get a real job" to supplement my consulting in energy efficnecy and renewables in order to assist people like you readers and people of similar sensibilitities 3) Gain a better understanding of how I can use locally made regional goods and services and do a better job of recycling, and offering homegrown goods and services to help my immediate neighbors. 4) I will not be as "afraid and fearful" in life and write my congressman and get involved for local and regional change. --- Anti-Fossil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey cs, > > Why so angry? No need to get nasty. Your early > points have already > received backing, personally, I see no attacks on > you. Argue your point to > your satisfaction if that is your desire, but I see > no reason to include > comments that could even remotely be construed as > spiteful. I am getting a > real sense now of just how deep distrust, and even > hatred of Americans runs > in the world, not just here, although I do sense it > here. It's a shame > really. > > AntiFossil > Mike Krafka > Minnesota USA > ********************************************************* > "If you think you are too small to make a > difference try sleeping with a mosquito." > Dalai Lama > ********************************************************* > "The difference between truth and fiction > is that fiction must make sense or nobody > will believe it." Mark Twain > ********************************************************* > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "csc-propulsion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:31 AM > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China? > > > > If you doesn't know the facts, then u should ask > your Congressman why > the > > Bush OK the takeover of Global Crossing by > Singapore Telemedia? > > > > If you do not know Li Ka Shing, then u should > ask Hongkong & Shanghai > Bank > > bosses in UK or the people of HK. > > > > If u wish to blame China for America's > accumulated trade problems, asked > > Madeline Albright if China has taken advantage of > USA. Ask her if she > agreed > > that Chinese consumer products has indeed bought > about reduced inflation > for > > USA. > > > > Bash China for all u can but find a real good > reason for doing so. If > USA > > media can be trusted, Americans would be a happier > lot but there are so > much > > bullshit being written for real like Jon Dougherty > from WorldnetDaily. > > (Eventually he was exposed as writing for a famous > American entreprenuer > who > > wanted to have Global Crossing for nothing so they > hit onto this > > nationalistic fervour but Bush turn it down) My > advice is for him to join > > Hollywood as a script writer so that more bullshit > can be captured on > > screen. Walt, catch up with your reading. The 2002 > article is already > > outdated. > > > > CS > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Walt Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made in China? > > > > > > > At 07:25 PM 12/29/2004, CS Chua wrote: > > > > Most Americans like Walt Patrick are > victims of USA media > > reporting, > > > >which unfortunately twist their facts > depending on which lobby pays > > them in > > > >Washington. > > > > > > Here's an example of the twisty > reporting that raises > concerns. > > > > > > > http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26539 > > > > > > Is CS offering gospel or BS? > > > > > > Walt Patrick certainly doesn't know, > but this he is confident > > of: > > > the Chinese think in the long term, whereas > Americans seem to have > > > abandoned any considerations beyond those > immediately at hand. > > > > > > And the smart money knows that those > who play the long game > > tend > > > to win in the long run. > > > > > > Walt > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Biofuel mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net > (searchable): > > > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Biofuel mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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