Greg,
> *The military is just like any other company trying to
> get you to join, in that it is going to push the fun exciting
> stuff, while under emphasizing the bad.
The military does far more than just "push the fun exciting stuff..." to
net recruits.
I guess you didn't read the references that were provided previously and
didn't do any searching beyond them on your own?
So is that high-gloss varnish or semi-gloss that you're using there? And
are you sure you've got enough ventilation in that room?
Todd Swearingen
Greg Harbican wrote:
No, up till 9/11 most people entered the military for one of two reasons.
The first and most popular reason is Education.
They think that it will be an easy way the get an education, without
having to work hard to get a scholarship or the need for a loan.
The second reason, is that they want money for something and they
currently don't have enough.
I have heard some of their complaints, and almost always it's along
the lines of " When I signed up almost _______ yrs ago, there wasn't
any war. I did it because I wanted to get 'an education' or 'the
education benefit's or 'to get a job and skills for a job when I get
out', not to kill people or get killed".
Many of them think that they are using the military, for their own
purposes/benefit, but, then when they are told that they can not get
out when the going gets rough, they cry "Not fair!"
The facts are:
*The military is just like any other company trying to get you to
join, in that it is going to push the fun exciting stuff, while under
emphasizing the bad.
*Anyone that thinks they can join the military and be subject to the
possibility of being killed or having to kill, is living a dream that
has no connection to reality.
*Anyone that thinks that the military can't or will not alter their
terms of enlistment in a time of crisis is dreaming.
*Anyone that does not read the fine print on any contract before
they sign, is a fool.
*All it takes is some checking, to find out what being in the military
is really like. There are to many people in ( and now out ) of the
military to say what it was like.
Any person, in any job, that think that they can take the good and
leave the bad, has another think coming.
Greg H.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Michael Redler <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
<mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
*Sent:* Friday, June 03, 2005 12:44
*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against
Carol Lang
"To enter military service and then say, I dont want to go there! or
I don't want to do that! is simply childish selfcenterdness (sp)."
Well Larry, if that were true, we would have an increasing number
of "self centered objectors" instead of conscientious objectors.
Most people who join the military, do so with a belief (faith)
that their commander-in-chief will make the right decisions. When
they don't, it is no exaggeration to look at it as a breach of
contract. You have every right to object to improper use of the
military (that would be YOU, if you are a soldier) due to the fact
that your government did not work with you in good faith.
Conscientious objectors are often examples of fearless objectivity
and heroism. They see war during their time as a divisive
instrument of policy and not a mechanism for self defense.
Mike
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