There were several kill sites in this the two Counties invloved. at the time I understand the killing was on Private land. but that is not to say that there is not some public land involved. Jim
Mike Weaver wrote: >Just out of curiosity, was this on public or private land? > >JJJN wrote: > > > >>We had a single (or pair of them, the feds could not be sure) Wolf Kill >>well over 100 Sheep. Over 50 in one night. When the Federal Fish and >>Wildlife finally authorized Federal trappers to Kill "one" Wolf They >>hunted it for 6 months in the badlands using an airplane and 4X4 with no >>success. Another confirmed sheep kill by wolf was reported in Dawson >>county 2 Months ago. Local trappers are sure from what they see that it >>is a mating pair not a Lobo. But then what do locals know about >>anything. Don't get me wrong I like to see wolves but I struggle with >>how they fit into the agricultural areas of Eastern Montana. Whats worse >>is the pathetic slow pace the Feds take and the arrogance they display >>to the State Fish Wildlife and Parks. >> >>Just venting, >>Jim >> >>Kirk McLoren wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>If you think beef is expensive now wait till more of them start >>>hunting cows instead of deer and elk. A wolf in Stanfield killed 8 >>>steers in one night. So much for "they only kill for food". They >>>started on sheep last year. Some ranchers are going out of business >>>soon. One fellow lost over 60 ewes this spring. >>>I bet none of you read any of this in the newspaper though. Or on tv. >>>Kirk >>> >>> >>> " * Lady and Blackey: Cry Wolf >>> * >>> */ By Scott Richard >>> /* >>> Hi, my name is Scott Richards and I have lived in Grangeville , >>> Idaho for the last 17 years. I have enjoyed training my hunting >>> dogs for the past 34 years. To do this it takes a great deal of >>> love for your dogs and for the great outdoors. I have always >>> prided myself in the manner of which I train my dogs and take care >>> of them. When I choose a new pup he or she spends the first 6 >>> months of their life in my house. They are loved and a bond is >>> there forever. I do not believe there are bad dog’s, just >>> inexperienced owners. I have spent the last 4 years trying to >>> introduce this sport to as many young people as I could. My photo >>> albums are full of pictures with children setting under a tree >>> with the dogs telling them good job. That has all changed now! The >>> reason I am writing this story is not to debate whether the >>> Canadian gray wolf should be or should not be here. I am not going >>> to debate anyone about how many wolfs are really in the state of >>> Idaho . I will say our Elk, Moose and Deer populations are in >>> serious trouble now! The real reason I am telling this story is >>> that I have a conscience, and what happened to my dogs and me last >>> Wednesday 5/25/2006 at 9:45 in the morning. It’s been a few days >>> now and the shock has turned from fear to disbelief to anger and >>> now the major concern for the safety of anyone who lives in or >>> visits are state. My life that I have loved raising and training >>> these special working dogs is now over. >>> >>> Crying wolf!! >>> >>> This Wednesday morning started like most days when I am training >>> dogs. I was a few miles from my house and turned up the hill on >>> the Service Flats Road . I let my dogs out of the box; jumped into >>> my truck and followed them up the road for a mile letting them >>> clean out. I had 8 dogs with me and 7 of them were very >>> experienced 2, 3, and 4 year olds. I had one 5 month old pup. I >>> loaded 4 dogs on the top of the box and 4 inside the box. I did >>> not have to drive far and the dogs sounded off letting me know a >>> bear had crossed the road. My friend Bryon had driven up from >>> Lewiston to train some of his young dogs. I turned out a 4 year >>> old named Jasper, he left the road and let me know the track was >>> fresh. I told Bryon turn his dogs loose as I did. They quickly >>> dropped into a canyon where bears hang in the brushy bottoms in >>> daylight hours. When all the dogs reached the bottom 5 dogs went >>> up the other side of the canyon headed toward Fish Creek >>> campground. The other group of dogs came right back up the hill to >>> us. They put the bears in a tree 20 minutes later. The other group >>> of dogs treed about the same time about 1- 1/2 miles away. Bryon >>> and I went to the nearest dogs first. When we were under the tree >>> we found they had a mature sow and a 2-year-old cub. We took a few >>> pictures and we were back in the trucks ready to go to the other >>> dogs. We drove back up to where we heard the group of 5 dogs top >>> over and shortly there after tree the bear. When we checked where >>> the dogs still had the bear treed. We drove as close as we could & >>> stopped and listened, they were about 4 hundred yards away treeing >>> solid. I made the decision to move the truck 200 yards to the low >>> side of the saddle; this would be an easy way back with the dogs. >>> When Bryon and I crested the hill instead of hearing a roar of >>> barking dogs treeing we heard nothing. We were looking at each >>> other like where did they go; we just heard them there 5 minutes >>> ago. Then one dog barked in one place another barked 50 yards >>> away. I said to Bryon that neither dog that we heard sounded like >>> any of our dogs. He agreed. Then I heard a dog bark that I new was >>> mine, but at the end of his bark there was a sharp yelp. Bryon and >>> I headed down the hill in a hurry about 75 yards apart. About 300 >>> yards down the hill I was stopped dead in my tracks by a big dark >>> colored wolf. My Blackey dog was getting attacked, I was 20 yards >>> away now and closing fast, screaming and yelling as I ran. I >>> stopped at about 12 feet from the wolf and even though I was >>> screaming and waving my arms the wolf did not break from the >>> attack. Every time Blackey tried to run the wolf would sink his >>> teeth into Blackey’s hindquarters. All the while I was screaming >>> louder than I ever screamed in my life. Without any thought I >>> picked up a 4-foot stick, stepped toward the wolf swung and hit a >>> tree. When the branch went crack and the tree went thud the wolf >>> instantly lunged at me. I remember thinking I was going to die. I >>> ran from tree to tree straight up hill towards my truck. When that >>> wolf lunged at me I believed I would have been seriously hurt or >>> dead if not for Blackey. I did not see what took place, but what I >>> heard was my dog giving his life to save me. As I reached the >>> truck Bryon was digging in his truck for a gun. As I ran up he >>> started yelling we got wolfs! I was trying to listen to him as I >>> was searching for a gun as I took my pistol in my hand and turned >>> toward Bryon, when I looked into his eyes I realized I was not the >>> only one threatened by wolfs. We were heading back down to see if >>> we could save Blackey or Lady or Halley, but there was no sound. I >>> wanted to here a bell dingle or a bark but nothing. As Bryon and I >>> hurried back to the truck to get my tracking box, I finally >>> understood Bryon was able to fight off 3 wolfs and save 2 dogs. >>> Snyper and Bullet, they were safe in the dog box with no life >>> threatening injuries. With the tracking box in hand I tuned in on >>> Ladies tracking collar and said to Bryon not Lady not Lady, but I >>> new she was dead. Then I tuned to Blackey, and said to Bryon, he >>> was dead, and then I tuned in Halley’s collar. 1 beep every 4 >>> seconds that means all 3 dogs had not moved for at least 5 >>> minutes. All dead! I was just standing there in shock. We decided >>> to look for Halley first we were getting real close the receiver >>> was pegging the needle on close and turned way down. I knew a few >>> more steps and I would be looking at one of my babies. My heart >>> skipped a beat when Halley’s tree switch went off, I didn’t know >>> if she was alive or if a wolf was dragging her off. We ran the >>> direction the needle was pointing and in a few yards there she >>> was. She was trying to get up, her stomach was ripped open and her >>> guts were hanging out a foot. She had over 60 bite marks deep >>> gashes all over her body. Her stomach was torn in multiple spots. >>> Bryon went into action, off came his shirt and we wrapped it >>> tightly around her stomach. I carried her back to Bryon’s truck >>> put her in the front seat and Brian headed for the Vets. I >>> remember thinking I wouldn’t see Halley alive again. I started >>> tracking Blacky next; it did not take long to find him. He wasn’t >>> far from where the wolf came after me. He was dead and lying in a >>> pool of his own blood. He was bit and torn so full of holes I just >>> fell to the ground bawling and crying. I could not quit thinking >>> he gave his life to save me. I was sitting there when it hit me >>> Lady, better get to Lady. When I tuned her in I new she was within >>> a 100 yards. I lined up with her collar and next thing I knew >>> there she laid in a heap, her eyes wide open looking straight into >>> my eyes. For one second I thought she might be alive. When I knelt >>> down beside her I new she was dead. Its very hard to describe the >>> type of death these dogs were handed. It was easy to see that the >>> wolfs want to cripple there prey, torture it and then kill it. I >>> have never seen a worse way for any animal or person to die. I >>> made it back to town and took care of my dogs that made it through >>> this nightmare that happened in the light of day. Then I headed to >>> see if Halley needed to be buried. When I walked into the >>> veterinarian’s office I was greeted with, Did you find the rest of >>> your dogs? I tried to say they were all dead but could not get the >>> words out; all I could do is cry. After a few minutes standing >>> alone I heard a voice behind me say Halley is still alive do you >>> want to see her? I instantly headed for the back room and when I >>> turned the corner I saw this little black ball covered in stitches >>> swollen twice her normal size. I stopped and said out loud oh my >>> God Halley what have they done to you? When she heard me say her >>> name she lifted her head, whined and waged her tail. I kneeled >>> down and held her and comforted her. The whole time wondering if >>> she was the lucky one or was Blackey and Lady the lucky ones. When >>> I looked into her eyes it was easy to see the only reason she was >>> still alive, the wolfs had choked her out. Her eyes were full of >>> blood, they had left her for dead. The Doc said it was a miracle >>> she was alive at all. Her lungs were badly damaged but what most >>> concerned us all was infection from all the tears and bites. I >>> knew this little dog had more heart and desire then a 1200lb >>> grizzly bear and yet was as gentle with my granddaughters as my >>> chocolate lab. If it were just a fight with infection she would >>> win. So on the way home I called the Idaho Fish and Game to report >>> what had happened. They were very understanding and I could tell >>> they were sincere when they said they were sorry for my loss. They >>> also made it clear there was nothing they could do for me and that >>> there hands were tied. They said they would write the report, and >>> call the federal agent. Justin the government trapper contacted me >>> by phone and arranged to meet me first light in the morning. We >>> were at the site of the attack early the next morning. We went to >>> the site where I had laid Lady in the shade. She was gone without >>> a trace. So I took Justin to where Blackey was laying and he had >>> also disappeared. We searched around and found nothing. About that >>> time a crow down below me called three times so we walked toward >>> the sound. It did not take long and we were standing over the >>> remains of the dog that saved me from harm. All that was left of >>> him was his head and backbone. Had we been an hour later there >>> would have been nothing left of him. We had spooked the wolfs off >>> while they were finishing there prey. In 5 hours all we found of >>> Lady was a pile of fresh wolf scat full of white, brown and black >>> dog hair. Lady was a tri-colored walker, that color. Justin and I >>> buried what was left of Blackey. We piled heavy stones on his >>> grave and I walked away thinking that it could have been me. I >>> could have been just a pile of wolf scat lying on the ground and >>> leaving people wonder where I had disappeared to. I couldn’t help >>> but think of the 22-year-old man who was killed and eaten by wolfs >>> in Canada this winter. There’s been a slaughter on hound dogs and >>> pets in Idaho and it is getting worse daily. I have been assured >>> that if these wolfs kill any cows or sheep, goats, pigs, horses >>> they will become a problem and will be dealt with, and the owners >>> will be compensated. That’s a relief!! Dogs have no value to >>> anyone in the government it seems. So what I love to do is over, I >>> will not send another dog to slaughter or feed another starving >>> wolf pack. My concerns now are that the wolfs are running out of >>> easy prey and are now eating dogs. In wet muddy areas where elk >>> and moose have always been plentiful, I no longer can find even a >>> track. Per haps aliens took them off to a safer planet. I hope you >>> did not find that funny. This is the first documented case in >>> Idaho where the wolfs have eaten a dog after killing it. The real >>> reason I had to write this story is Public safety. The people who >>> live in this wonderful state are being left clueless to the >>> dangers that await them, in our national forests. The general >>> public is unaware of the danger that awaits them in our national >>> forest and else where. Since I retired I have spent no less then 4 >>> days a week in the mountains, what has amazed me are how many of >>> these wolfs are right around peoples homes. When they are out of >>> easy prey be ready. For as long as I can remember when you were in >>> the mountains for any reason a dog by your side was a great >>> defense to warn you of predators. I to believed in this. But now a >>> dog is nothing more than bait to lure wolfs to you. Recently while >>> cougar hunting with an associate of mine who is a licensed guide >>> like myself had a wolf encounter. He was cougar hunting with a dog >>> on a leash when three wolfs charged up on him. With waving arms >>> and a screaming voice he was able to persuade them to leave, but >>> what if they had been a little hungrier? Your natural instinct >>> will be to defend your companion. I am not saying to leave your >>> friend at home but be prepared. Put a bell or a beeper on him or >>> her so you know where they are at all times. The most important >>> thing is to pack a firearm! I personally believe pepper spray will >>> not work in a pack attack. Keep your dogs quiet when you are >>> walking, no barking. If they are tied up in camp, no barking. And >>> for Gods sake don’t let your children play with your pets and have >>> them barking while there playing. My personal belief is the war >>> has been lost, its to late to save are big game herds in my >>> lifetime. The perfect plan to end our hunting in Idaho , Montana , >>> Wyoming and soon Washington , Oregon and the entire Rocky Mountain >>> Range. It’s fool proof and would take an order from the President >>> to change it. So what I have loved to do for most of my life is >>> over. So enjoy while you still can, be prepared, pack a gun! I >>> prey you never encounter a pack of Canadian gray wolfs. >>> >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! 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