Cows be damned. I've had wolves howling a couple of kilometers from my camp and awoken to the sound of a lone wolf howl on the opposite side of me being answered by the pack in the original location.  A little disturbing when you consider a student from the university where I work was attacked and killed by wolves in northern Saskatchewan earlier this year.  A couple of months ago I was in a remote area of the B.C. islands and read a trail log entry from a solo kayaker who was charged by a small wolf pack on a beach and had to defend himself with a peice of driftwood.  The encroachment into each other's worlds currently affects only a smal percentage of people and wolves but over time the situation is not going to improve. Bears and mountain lions have a similar story. I have very mixed feelings about this since after all I am traveling in very wild places so I share some of the responsibility for a potential encounter but I also am willing to accept that risk. Others may not share that opinion and eventually there will be a call for action.  One planet. Population exploding. People and animals have to share it. Weapons of minor destruction everywhere. Who will win and who will lose?  Need I say more?

Joe

DHAJOGLO wrote:
Kirk,
   I think I understand your position.  And wolves are very keen preditors but again, I reiterate this link: 

http://www.ers.usda.gov/news/BSECoverage.htm

Cattle inventory

    * January 1, 2003:
          o U.S.—96.1 million, down from 1996 peak of 103.5 million
          o Canada—13.5 million head
    *  January 1, 2004
          o U.S.—94.9 million head (cyclical low)
          o Canada—14.7 million head


With an estimated 50,000 wolves (http://www.wolfsongalaska.org/canadian_wolves.html) it appears that Canada still has cows.

Now, lets look at the per capita comparisons:

.4 cows per person in Canada (32,000,000 pop: http://www40.statcan.ca/l01/cst01/demo02.htm?sdi=population )
.3 cows per person in the US (presuming 295 million as the population)

In 1982, the US had about 39 Million head of beef cattle and now, we have 33.9 million. http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/usda/current/Catt/Catt-07-21-2006.pdf and there seems enough to go around.  As far as the wildlife are concerned, that too is too complex to simply sum up with local data.

So, yes, many don't see the wolf problem in the news.  But then again, those who do see it probably fail to look at the broader picture and just presume that Wolves are a threat to all of us.  Like I said, in Minnesota wolves are an issue but I don't fear for my life and the wildlife is certainly not doing badly with the wolves. http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/mammals/deer/facts.html and http://www.mnforsustain.org/wolf_mech_and_nelson_wolves_deer_harvest.htm show the numbers for wolves and deer in this state.  The first link fails to mention the 200,000 deer harvested by hunting vs. the 40,000 by wolves.

Anecdotal evidence is useful but the story, just as with the article you posted, is never told in its entirety and must be taken as just that, anecdotal and not universal.  We make jokes about it, not to make fun of you but because we are not alarmed at the issue.  Besides, my joke about the curtain was a subtext about the proposed fence between the US and Mexico.

Regards,
-dave


On Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:04 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote:
  
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:04:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kirk McLoren
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Wolf attack near Grangeville

The Canadians wet themselves laughing when we trapped wolves to take South. And a hearty thank you eh. If you want to understand what is coming here examine where we got the wolves. One fellow setting traps said he saw 1 deer print in 10 days. Thats all - the sum total. Everything. --If that is your idea of ecology have at it.

    


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