Interesting questions.

Wegman's found that in order to source locally-produced produce, they had 
to abandon their centralized purchasing model and let each store develop 
relationships with farmers in their immediate area. If Walmart wants to do 
local, they will confront the same need. One of the things that drove local 
farmers out of production in the first place was the centralized buying of 
the supermarkets as they came to dominate the food scene. Any move toward 
relocalization is likely to expand opportunities for local producers. 
Walmart could add stability to the market by adding some coordination to 
production, so I don't see their involvement as being necessarily bad. 
Their lowest possible cost model, though, will no doubt create downward 
pressure on prices, which is not a good thing for local producers. The only 
way to get prices down is by scaling up production and substituting 
machinery for hand labor (or using cheap imported labor).

It will be quite some time (if ever) before human labor can compete with 
machines. The impediment to using more machines is the capital cost, which 
do not make sense for small producers. They would make sense of purchased 
and used cooperatively, though, so this too is an area where collaboration 
would be sensible. It might even be essential to maintain viability if 
competition intensifies, as some of you appear to believe will be the case 
and we transition to higher energy costs.

At some point, energy costs will be high enough that labor will compete 
more effectively with machines. As that happens, production costs will 
increase, even with markedly lower average wages in the face of declining 
jobs in other sectors. Food costs will rise, in line with the 
labor-intensive "boutique" production of today. That will put the squeeze 
on many lower income people to feed themselves and their families. The way 
to reduce costs for them will be the traditional one of substituting their 
labor for money by growing food themselves or bartering their labor for food.

We may see a temporary reversal of the trend toward increasing energy 
prices as the world slips into a protracted recession, reducing energy 
demand. I expect a resumption of the upward march of prices with in a few 
years, though, and I hope we can take this respite and use it to position 
ourselves for the future. Investments in collaboration to lower costs in 
the short run will pay dividends in the long run as well.

Joel

At 10:33 PM 10/8/08 -0400, you wrote:
>At 03:43 PM 10/8/2008 -0400, you wrote:
> >[Karl North:]
> >
> >| These initiatives are all good food for thought, but we need to
> >| bear in mind that Vermont is a special case.
> >
> >Yes, but so is Tompkins County.
>
>Jon--I agree with your suggestion that we are positioned to be successful
>with the "Vermont model".
>
>...part deleted...
>
> >So the question is whether a local farm cooperative of the kind described
> >in the article can hang on until the cost of fuel finally levels
> >the playing field by making Wal-Mart food more expensive than
> >locally produced food.
>
>And I wonder what this time framework will be?  The problem is that
>Wal-Mart has an economy of scale not seen locally.  However, things are
>going to change with the local Wal-Mart.  Wal-Mart wants to expand by
>40,000 sq. ft. to become a Super Store, meaning that they would add a
>Wegmans-scale supermarket to the existing
>Everyhing-You-Could-Ever-Want-That-Is-Made-In-China store.  (I know this as
>I am on the City of Ithaca Conservation Advisory Council and we are
>currently reviewing the environmental impacts of such an
>expansion.)   Would they get on the local and organic band wagon?  And if
>they did, how would this affect the truck farm industry in the Central
>Finger Lakes?  GreenStar, Wegmans, Tops, Ludgate's and a host of other
>outlets are already involved in promoting local and organic or at least
>"natural" foods, so perhaps the expanded Wal-Mart would give a boost to the
>local food economy... assuming that anyone would want to sell to
>Wal-Mart?   Lots of stuff going on.   Tom
>
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