this discussion is all very present-oriented - if you're listening at all to 
Bethany and Jon's TCLocal work, you'll know that "energy descent" - what I've 
been thinking of as post-peak oil - is going to hit far sooner than we 
realized, especially now that the world economic system is experiencing such 
upheavals. This means that we MUST move QUICKLY toward local food 
self-sufficiency.

And Walmart, which depends on China for its manufacturered goods, will be an 
empty warehouse  -

all which is to say that these erudite comments about Vermont etc aren't as 
useful as actually moving ahead with something concrete about farming/food 
availability cooperatives. 

BETHANY & JON: can you comment?

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--- On Sat, 10/11/08, George Frantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: George Frantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [SustainableTompkins] Local, collaborative farming
> To: "Sustainable Tompkins County listserv" 
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 12:05 PM
>  
> Why assume the continued dependence on the
> WalMart/Wegman's centralized procurement/distribution
> system model?
> 
> There are a number of cities in Pennsylvania that have
> since colonial times operated publicly-owned central markets
> where individual stalls are leased to small-time local
> producers of food and and fiber.  
>  
> The City-owned Central Market in Lancaster has been
> incredibly successful in staving off the chain supermarkets
> in that city, while providing residents a variety of
> produce, baked goods, meats and seafood at competitive
> prices from over 100 vendors who lease stalls in the
> building.  Because of its presence downtown just about
> every office has a full-size refridgerator and downtown
> office workers extend their Tuesday and Friday lunch
> hours to do their food shopping.
>  
> The Reading Terminal Market in Philadelphia serves the same
> purpose.
>  
> Another possible model for local procurement would be the
> Co-op Supermarket in Greenbelt, Maryland.  Established in
> the late 1930s as part of the overall Roosevelt New Deal to
> create a new model for cities in the Uited States, the Co-op
> continues to be a full-service, independent, cooperative
> owned supermarket in downtown Greenbelt.
>  
> We have to look at revamping the entire system, top-down,
> in a manner that ensures quality affordable food for all
> incomes, and an equitable return on labor and investment for
> our farmers.  That includes viable alternatives to Wegmans
> and WalMart.
>  
> George Frantz
>  
>  
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