I'd pay a fee, but only if it were charged to really cover and
reflect costs, not out of general principle to keep out random people.

Cheers,

-John


Steven Glogger wrote:


hi ppl



What about a membership fee to cover (or partly cover) the costs
of the meetings ?



hmm... seems a good idea .) so we don't have to listen to the markting-presentations anymore :) *G*

-steven



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Daniele Guazzoni
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants


I totally agree with you Thomas.


Personally I'm looking for a job (and I think I'm not the only
one) but still
interested about the Swiss Internet scene.
I think it's a bad step to try to create an exclusive and elitary
club out of
the open-minded SwiNOG.
I can understand that the organisation of a meeting is not for
free and in the
actual economic situation even "big companies" think twice before
spending a
couple of hundred francs.
What about a membership fee to cover (or partly cover) the costs
of the meetings
?
People which are really interested will not have a problem to pay
let say 50.--
/Year.

Greets Daniele

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Kernen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants




Catching up on threads so sorry about the delay.

I personnally don't agree in limiting the amount of people and


the horizon,


people that are not "concerned" with Operations will maybe only


attend one


meeting and then understand that there is no really interest


for them. Take


also the case of "consultants" that don't actually operate a network but
advise others on how to improve their operations, does that


mean they can't


come to the meetings?

I would prefer to pay a little, get a larger room, have 3


meetings a year


and allow all the people that are interested in the content of


the meetings


to attend.

My .2 cents
Thomas

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Studer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:43 AM
Subject: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants




Hi Together

We know, we was not the fasted for registriation to the swinog6,
but we are asking, if the swinog-meeting should not be restricted
a little bit, if there is not to much place.

We have seen, that some company sent out
5-6 People (i.e. IP-Plus). At the other hand, we have seen, that
there are participants, which are not realy swiss network operators
(i.E. Roche or Students). We thought, that this meetings are in
primary to exchange information between the swiss network operators
(ISP's).

We don't think that this user group should be A CUG, but perhaps
if there isn't enoght place, that at first, ISP are welcome (max. 2


persons


per ISP), and if there is still place, the could be also


other peoples.


That should be just an idea to think about. Comments welcome.

Regards

Patrick Studer


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