ciao daniele i think the problem ist not, that we need a bigger place. maybe there is no bigger place at this time in berne. because as i know (all hotels are full) at the time we are there, there is the worldcongress of the post.
steven > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Daniele Guazzoni > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants > > > As I said, SwiNOG should not become a "club"... > The whole discussion about too many participant just started > because there is no > place at the actual meeting, aka we need a bigger place, aka more costs. > > I don't want to keep out people, but it is more than correct to > participate to > the SwiNOG costs. > If sponsors are still around and willing to pay for the meeting they are > welcome. In this case the fee could be used to cover the dinner after the > meeting. > > See ya, Daniele > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Morgan Salomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:50 PM > Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants > > > > I'd pay a fee, but only if it were charged to really cover and > > reflect costs, not out of general principle to keep out random people. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -John > > > > > > Steven Glogger wrote: > > > > >hi ppl > > > > > > > > > > > >>What about a membership fee to cover (or partly cover) the costs > > >>of the meetings ? > > >> > > >> > > > > > >hmm... seems a good idea .) so we don't have to listen to the > > >markting-presentations anymore :) *G* > > > > > >-steven > > > > > > > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>Behalf Of Daniele Guazzoni > > >>Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:02 PM > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants > > >> > > >> > > >>I totally agree with you Thomas. > > >> > > >>Personally I'm looking for a job (and I think I'm not the only > > >>one) but still > > >>interested about the Swiss Internet scene. > > >>I think it's a bad step to try to create an exclusive and elitary > > >>club out of > > >>the open-minded SwiNOG. > > >>I can understand that the organisation of a meeting is not for > > >>free and in the > > >>actual economic situation even "big companies" think twice before > > >>spending a > > >>couple of hundred francs. > > >>What about a membership fee to cover (or partly cover) the costs > > >>of the meetings > > >>? > > >>People which are really interested will not have a problem to pay > > >>let say 50.-- > > >>/Year. > > >> > > >>Greets Daniele > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- > > >>From: "Thomas Kernen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:46 PM > > >>Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>Catching up on threads so sorry about the delay. > > >>> > > >>>I personnally don't agree in limiting the amount of people and > > >>> > > >>> > > >>the horizon, > > >> > > >> > > >>>people that are not "concerned" with Operations will maybe only > > >>> > > >>> > > >>attend one > > >> > > >> > > >>>meeting and then understand that there is no really interest > > >>> > > >>> > > >>for them. Take > > >> > > >> > > >>>also the case of "consultants" that don't actually operate a > network but > > >>>advise others on how to improve their operations, does that > > >>> > > >>> > > >>mean they can't > > >> > > >> > > >>>come to the meetings? > > >>> > > >>>I would prefer to pay a little, get a larger room, have 3 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>meetings a year > > >> > > >> > > >>>and allow all the people that are interested in the content of > > >>> > > >>> > > >>the meetings > > >> > > >> > > >>>to attend. > > >>> > > >>>My .2 cents > > >>>Thomas > > >>> > > >>>----- Original Message ----- > > >>>From: "Patrick Studer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:43 AM > > >>>Subject: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Hi Together > > >>>> > > >>>>We know, we was not the fasted for registriation to the swinog6, > > >>>>but we are asking, if the swinog-meeting should not be restricted > > >>>>a little bit, if there is not to much place. > > >>>> > > >>>>We have seen, that some company sent out > > >>>>5-6 People (i.e. IP-Plus). At the other hand, we have seen, that > > >>>>there are participants, which are not realy swiss network operators > > >>>>(i.E. Roche or Students). We thought, that this meetings are in > > >>>>primary to exchange information between the swiss network operators > > >>>>(ISP's). > > >>>> > > >>>>We don't think that this user group should be A CUG, but perhaps > > >>>>if there isn't enoght place, that at first, ISP are welcome (max. 2 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>persons > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>per ISP), and if there is still place, the could be also > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>other peoples. > > >> > > >> > > >>>>That should be just an idea to think about. 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