I don't need a sitting place...also don't need much space...
...I also started a diet...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Glogger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:59 PM
Subject: RE: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants


> ciao daniele
>
> i think the problem ist not, that we need a bigger place. maybe there is no
> bigger place at this time in berne.
> because as i know (all hotels are full) at the time we are there, there is
> the worldcongress of the post.
>
> steven
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of Daniele Guazzoni
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:53 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants
> >
> >
> > As I said, SwiNOG should not become a "club"...
> > The whole discussion about too many participant just started
> > because there is no
> > place at the actual meeting, aka we need a bigger place, aka more costs.
> >
> > I don't want to keep out people, but it is more than correct to
> > participate to
> > the SwiNOG costs.
> > If sponsors are still around and willing to pay for the meeting they are
> > welcome. In this case the fee could be used to cover the dinner after the
> > meeting.
> >
> > See ya, Daniele
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Morgan Salomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants
> >
> >
> > > I'd pay a fee, but only if it were charged to really cover and
> > > reflect costs, not out of general principle to keep out random people.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > -John
> > >
> > >
> > > Steven Glogger wrote:
> > >
> > > >hi ppl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>What about a membership fee to cover (or partly cover) the costs
> > > >>of the meetings ?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >hmm... seems a good idea .) so we don't have to listen to the
> > > >markting-presentations anymore :) *G*
> > > >
> > > >-steven
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Behalf Of Daniele Guazzoni
> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:02 PM
> > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>I totally agree with you Thomas.
> > > >>
> > > >>Personally I'm looking for a job (and I think I'm not the only
> > > >>one) but still
> > > >>interested about the Swiss Internet scene.
> > > >>I think it's a bad step to try to create an exclusive and elitary
> > > >>club out of
> > > >>the open-minded SwiNOG.
> > > >>I can understand that the organisation of a meeting is not for
> > > >>free and in the
> > > >>actual economic situation even "big companies" think twice before
> > > >>spending a
> > > >>couple of hundred francs.
> > > >>What about a membership fee to cover (or partly cover) the costs
> > > >>of the meetings
> > > >>?
> > > >>People which are really interested will not have a problem to pay
> > > >>let say 50.--
> > > >>/Year.
> > > >>
> > > >>Greets Daniele
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>From: "Thomas Kernen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:46 PM
> > > >>Subject: Re: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>Catching up on threads so sorry about the delay.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I personnally don't agree in limiting the amount of people and
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>the horizon,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>people that are not "concerned" with Operations will maybe only
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>attend one
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>meeting and then understand that there is no really interest
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>for them. Take
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>also the case of "consultants" that don't actually operate a
> > network but
> > > >>>advise others on how to improve their operations, does that
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>mean they can't
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>come to the meetings?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I would prefer to pay a little, get a larger room, have 3
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>meetings a year
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>and allow all the people that are interested in the content of
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>the meetings
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>to attend.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>My .2 cents
> > > >>>Thomas
> > > >>>
> > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>From: "Patrick Studer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:43 AM
> > > >>>Subject: [swinog] Swinog-6 - Too many participants
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>Hi Together
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>We know, we was not the fasted for registriation to the swinog6,
> > > >>>>but we are asking, if the swinog-meeting should not be restricted
> > > >>>>a little bit, if there is not to much place.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>We have seen, that some company sent out
> > > >>>>5-6 People (i.e. IP-Plus). At the other hand, we have seen, that
> > > >>>>there are participants, which are not realy swiss network operators
> > > >>>>(i.E. Roche or Students). We thought, that this meetings are in
> > > >>>>primary to exchange information between the swiss network operators
> > > >>>>(ISP's).
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>We don't think that this user group should be A CUG, but perhaps
> > > >>>>if there isn't enoght place, that at first, ISP are welcome (max. 2
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>persons
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>per ISP), and if there is still place, the could be also
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>other peoples.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>>That should be just an idea to think about. Comments welcome.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Regards
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Patrick Studer
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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