No, feed validator would be running the check as it'self. That's partly why 
I used it.

give me a URL and I'll play if you want, I could use a break from my current 
programming project.

On 8/21/05, Kent Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  Feed validator is running from your browser
> (presumably), and your browser is saying hi I am so
> and so, and google is happy with that. There really is
> no question if it is valid, just who is allowed to
> read it.
> 
> but even weirder than that, I just discovered another
> bugbear related to this, a german provider izynews.
> There are probably about 10,000 entries in syndic8 for
> these guys. syndic8 seems to poll them perfectly and
> now when I use my program I get HTTP/1.1 404 Not
> found, which makes no sense, unless they are also not
> liking my client, ie they don't recognise me as a
> valid client, and sending me the wrong error message.
> I just don't understand this one at all. There seems
> to be a redirect mechanism, which I believe I am
> following. 
> 
> I would be very curious how the clever clogs at
> syndic8 are managing to read those feeds. I reckon cuz
> izzy provides a service they also block certain
> clients and that syndic8 is loggingin somehow, but
> this is wild speculation. 
> 
> --- Joseph Becher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > FeedValidator seems to not mind it: 
> >
> 
> http://www.feedvalidator.org/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.com%2Fnwshp%3Fhl%3Den%26tab%3Dwn%26q%3D%26output%3Drss
> > 
> > Does you programs work with other feeds? is the url
> > wrong maybe?
> > 
> > On 8/21/05, Kent Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hmm maybe you are right. But in a browser you
> > don't
> > > need to be logged in to read the feed.
> > > 
> > > I know for a fact that if I login in using the
> > google
> > > api it will work, but it seems a bit overboard and
> > > unneccesarily secure. In my experience Google is
> > > always afraid of scrapers and zealously blocks
> > clients
> > > it can't recognise, and now they have gone and
> > made an
> > > implementation unfriendly to news aggregetors.
> > Maybe I
> > > am way off base, but I would have a hard time
> > > understanding how a news aggregator could read
> > these
> > > feeds unless a) they access with the google api or
> > b)
> > > they masqueraded the client as mozilla, firefox,
> > > opera, or ie, c) set up some sort of logged in
> > > connection. 
> > > 
> > > --- Joseph Becher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 403... Are you sure you don't need to login into
> > > > your google account to view 
> > > > the feed?
> > > > 
> > > > On 8/21/05, Kent Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > that's my problem I am not using a browser, I
> > am
> > > > using
> > > > > a program that I wrote, and I am wondering if
> > any
> > > > > other news aggregetor programs will also have
> > > > problems
> > > > > reading those feeds.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- Tara Calishain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > At 08:20 AM 8/21/2005, you wrote:
> > > > > > >After all the fanfare that Google would
> > start
> > > > to
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > >feeds for google news, it seems that unless
> > you
> > > > > > mask
> > > > > > >your client as mozilla or ie (or another
> > > > approved
> > > > > > >client), you can't access them. I keep
> > getting
> > > > > > >HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I wonder if they have a list of approvated
> > > > > > aggregators
> > > > > > >or something. google only says "Important:
> > you
> > > > > > must
> > > > > > >use a feed reader in order to subscribe to
> > > > website
> > > > > > >feeds."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >does anyone know more about this?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Um, what browser are you using? I use Opera
> > and
> > > > have
> > > > > > had no trouble...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Tara
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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