thanks Jeff for the offer, that is very kind, no worries enjoy your vacation!
well I am stumped, hmm, the only other idea I have is that I am using a library called httpclient and that is using some agent header that is being rejected. well no worries, I'll bust this baby open. thanks everyone for the pointers, it is nearly 2:00 am here so I will wish everyone a good night. --- Jeff Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kent Says, > > > I would be very curious how the clever clogs at > > syndic8 are managing to read those feeds. I reckon > cuz > > izzy provides a service they also block certain > > clients and that syndic8 is loggingin somehow, but > > this is wild speculation. > > I don't do anything special for any feeds. In fact, > I don't > even sent the HTTP Host header that I am supposed to > send. I don't do magic logins, since the purpose of > Syndic8 > is for everyone else to find feeds to read. It > wouldn't do > much good for Syndic8 to be able to read the feeds > if > the rest of the world was not able to do so. There > is > a standard way for a URL to include a user name and > password, and I have code to make sure that no such > feeds are submitted by accident. > > I am actually on vacation right now, but I would be > happy > to share some PHP code with you when I return, if > you would > like. > > Jeff; > > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 23:32:06 -0000, "francistill" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > The Izzynews feed links you provided return > working web pages. > > Cheers, > > Francis > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kent Gibson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Feed validator is running from your browser > > > (presumably), and your browser is saying hi I am > so > > > and so, and google is happy with that. There > really is > > > no question if it is valid, just who is allowed > to > > > read it. > > > > > > but even weirder than that, I just discovered > another > > > bugbear related to this, a german provider > izynews. > > > There are probably about 10,000 entries in > syndic8 for > > > these guys. syndic8 seems to poll them perfectly > and > > > now when I use my program I get HTTP/1.1 404 Not > > > found, which makes no sense, unless they are > also not > > > liking my client, ie they don't recognise me as > a > > > valid client, and sending me the wrong error > message. > > > I just don't understand this one at all. There > seems > > > to be a redirect mechanism, which I believe I am > > > following. > > > > > > I would be very curious how the clever clogs at > > > syndic8 are managing to read those feeds. I > reckon cuz > > > izzy provides a service they also block certain > > > clients and that syndic8 is loggingin somehow, > but > > > this is wild speculation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know for a fact that if I login in using > the > > > > google > > > > > api it will work, but it seems a bit > overboard and > > > > > unneccesarily secure. In my experience > Google is > > > > > always afraid of scrapers and zealously > blocks > > > > clients > > > > > it can't recognise, and now they have gone > and > > > > made an > > > > > implementation unfriendly to news > aggregetors. > > > > Maybe I > > > > > am way off base, but I would have a hard > time > > > > > understanding how a news aggregator could > read > > > > these > > > > > feeds unless a) they access with the google > api or > > > > b) > > > > > they masqueraded the client as mozilla, > firefox, > > > > > opera, or ie, c) set up some sort of logged > in > > > > > connection. > > > > > > > > > > --- Joseph Becher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > 403... Are you sure you don't need to > login into > > > > > > your google account to view > > > > > > the feed? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/21/05, Kent Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's my problem I am not using a > browser, I > > > > am > > > > > > using > > > > > > > a program that I wrote, and I am > wondering if > > > > any > > > > > > > other news aggregetor programs will also > have > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > reading those feeds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tara Calishain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 08:20 AM 8/21/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >After all the fanfare that Google > would > > > > start > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > >feeds for google news, it seems that > unless > > > > you > > > > > > > > mask > > > > > > > > >your client as mozilla or ie (or > another > > > > > > approved > > > > > > > > >client), you can't access them. I > keep > > > > getting > > > > > > > > >HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I wonder if they have a list of > approvated > > > > > > > > aggregators > > > > > > > > >or something. google only says > "Important: > > > > you > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > >use a feed reader in order to > subscribe to > > > > > > website > > > > > > > > >feeds." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >does anyone know more about this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Um, what browser are you using? 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