Also, at least in American usage, while a cafe will always sell beverages, it may or may not sell alcoholic beverages.
-- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria -----Original Message----- From: Andre Engels <andreeng...@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:06:30 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools<tagging@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Dutch cafes (was: What's a power=station?) On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Emilie Laffray <emilie.laff...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Well, I would say it is part of what we call a "café". The problem is >> more that Dutch uses the same word for what in OSM are three terms: >> bar, cafe and pub. And moreover, the same place often having the >> function of all three. To me, it's not the usage of the word "cafe" in >> OSM that is strange, but the distinction that is made between the >> various drinking establishments. >> > > A "café" has a different meaning in different countries. Depending on where > you are originating from, you are likely to have a surprise, especially if > you are an English speaker and you are going to France. > Again, it is a case of sticking to the definition used on the wiki, even if > it doesn't sound logical based on the usage of the word in your language. The problem is that the definition on the wiki makes a distinction which is not made in the Netherlands. A 'café' is a place where drinks can be bought for local consumption. I am to divide these into "cafe", "pub" and "bar", based on whether they sell drinks and snacks or light food, sell beverages in a relaxed atmosphere and usually also food or sell beverages in a more party-like atmosphere not selling food. Well, I find this distinction very artificial, because many will fall in all three categories, depending on the time of day - a cafe by day, a pub in the early evening, a bar in the later evening. Should I tag them with all three? And if so, when seeing a cafe during the day, do I need to come back in the evening to listen how loud the music is? -- André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
