On March 25, 2020 2:08:33 PM GMT+01:00, Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 10:02, <pang...@riseup.net> wrote: > >> Honestly I don't think it makes sense for OSM to have names at all on >> objects which has a Wikidata reference. >> > >Not all mappable objects have a Wikidata reference. Cities and big >towns, >yes. >Villages and hamlets, most but not all. Even where a wikidata >reference >exists, >not all languages are given, even when some are actually used by >locals.
Would it be a problem to add them to WD? > >I live in Wales. Wales is multilingual, Welsh and English. For some >hamlets >and villages there is no English Wikipedia page, just a Welsh one. The >Wikidata items for Welsh-only Wikipedia pages often have only the Welsh >name. >The road signs have both Welsh and English on them. > >Some of the small hamlets don't have a Wikipedia page at all, and no >Wikidata >item either. This is not a problem, it could be created down the road by you or someone else. Until then we keep the names as we currently do. > >There is no Wikidata item for the short street around the corner from >me. >Its >road sign says "Heol Napier / Napier Street" (the "/" isn't on the >sign, I'm >using it to represent a line break). If that sign were replaced, it >might >instead say "Heol Napier Street." There are a lot of mappable objects >which don't have Wikidata items yet require names in at least two >languages just to satisfy the people that live there on a permanent >basis. > >We can't rely on Wikidata in multilingual localities. I disagree. We could even add a property to WD stating the name on the ground, e.g. in your example "Heol Napier / Napier Street" We could even model the newline by making two ranked statements. local_name_on_ground=Heol Napier + rank=1 local_name_on_ground=Napier Street + rank=2 _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
