Hey stevea, was this warning on relations due to any particular remark in this thread? ... I feel attacked! ;) given I've used iD to edit relations quite a bit: I don't usually edit them, but more just adding new ones. Except for re-adding ways when they got deleted from a route, when others changed them. I also wouldn't dream of touching the coastline. :) I've always tried to be very careful to not break anything, but now I'm concerned I've inadvertently done that. (Username is `neomanic` if you want to critique my work.)
I realise this is a bit of a n00b question, but could you possibly provide some pointers to the better _current_ documentation and resources on understanding relations well and editing in JOSM? Now that OSM has been around for a while, I find it overwhelming to sort through and figure out what is current best practice, and so I've put off approaching learning more with a structured approach. Thanks. On Mon, 29 May 2023 at 12:40, stevea <stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote: > I've said all this before: while editing relations in iD is technically > possible, it is tedious and difficult in the opinion of many. A great many > existing relations have also been broken by people using iD (I can't count > how many I have personally experienced). I find editing relations with iD > to also be a "nightmare," but I don't want to so viciously disparage iD, > even as I do want to discourage others from using it as a reliable, > suitable, comfortable, intuitive relation editor. (It is not). > > That said, if you are going to edit relations (from this thread: streams, > waterways, coastlines, islands...but also many other more-sophisticated and > complex-structured data) within OSM, please do so using an editor that > strongly supports good relation editing. I use JOSM and recommend it, > though I realize that JOSM is not everybody's cup of tea, either. > > Think: if you know nodes, ways and tags, but not relations, yet you want > to edit data properly entered into OSM using relations (and which should > ONLY be entered into OSM using relations), you must be able to edit > relations. And do so well, without more than the occasional minor error. > OSM is not your sandbox for practice learning how to edit relations > (poorly), though you are likely to do exactly that (in my opinion) using > the iD editor to edit relations. The map does not benefit by sloppy > relations being entered by iD (or any editor). > > Learn the basics of OSM. Next, learn "about" relations (their structure, > conventions, the differing flavors of them...). THEN learn HOW to edit > relations using an editor that supports editing relations well, such as > JOSM. Though JOSM has a learning curve, it is worth it. I do not consider > iD to be a strong editor for relations, these are my opinions. Thank you > for reading. > >
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