This mapper just registered today. Even though he managed to 'destroy' some
data during his first attempts at editing the map, I believe our first
priority should be to welcome him in our midst. The second step is show him
the light and explain what JOSM is and how it's far superior to iD, LOL.

If the data is terribly disrupted, it's relatively easy to revert the edit
for really serious cases, especially when no further edits have occurred
yet.

Losing/alienating 'fresh mapper blood' is a much bigger problem. So it's
important we're as constructive as possible. It's a community project and
we desperately need that community to grow bigger.

Cheers,

Jo

2015-01-14 18:14 GMT+01:00 Glenn Plas <gl...@byte-consult.be>:

> On 14-01-15 18:04, Sander Deryckere wrote:
> > It's quite likely he doesn't know what a multipolygon is. iD creates
> > those for the user when they "merge" areas. That merging is meant to
> > make holes in areas.
>
> Ok, great to know this, tx I didn't realise.  ID also doesn't seem to
> validate as the original buildings (parts of) where still there it seems.
>
> >
> > So I guess he merges some form with another form, and iD creates a
> > multipolygon without the user knowing it.
> >
> > The realigning of course is his fault, and I hope in the near future we
> > can just point them to use MapBox (which will use Agiv imagery). Since
> > copy-pasting a TMS url to iD for every session is a bit tedious.
>
> Indeed, I think the biggest problem is realising there is a better
> source and also skills to understand that some sat photo's aren't
> looking at the earth in a 90 degree angle.  I'm sure you'll find houses
> like that from my hand as well before AGIV came along.
>
> >
> > (btw, I reached 95% completeness on my town, 8840, the remaining ~165
> > are mostly unclear addresses and some plain mistakes that need to be
> > reported to Agiv, so that will be a slow 5%. Most of the reports I made
> > were solved rather quickly so far.)
>
>
> I pretty much completed all I could, the remaining issues are usually
> borderline problems, only a few mistakes or a place where the node is
> way off (usually centralised in the middle of the property) but where
> the house is way off.  I never use the meters option in the tool, I keep
> the default behavior there.
>
> But like this person made a second changeset where he popped number 110
> into a row clearly in the 80's.  It's way off, he mentions the source
> which is the website of Century 21 and funny enough, that site has got
> the number wrong, hence they introduce errors.
>
> I wish there was a way to let a mapper know the area has been
> housenumbered against trusty sources.
>
> Glenn
>
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