2015-01-14 20:15 GMT+01:00 Glenn Plas <gl...@byte-consult.be>:

> On 14-01-15 19:30, Jo wrote:
> > iD has many flaws, but one thing can't be beat about it. It provides
> > (new) users with an easy way to enter into our world.
>
> Perhaps I should try it out, I only tried out what it produces, so it's
> frustrating.  I have the feeling from looking at the data that it
> doesn't take the existing data into account, when someone marks a
> speed_camera, it's usually not connected to the way, but right on top of
> it however (not taking into account the missing relations that should be
> created for enforcements).
>

I don't think speed_cams should be nodes on the way. They should be next to
the way at the exact position where they are. Sometimes to the right,
sometimes to the left  one the 'middenberm'.

>
> > What happens after that, is entirely up to us. Personally, I'm not
> > actively monitoring the edits in my neighbourhood. Maybe I should, but
> > I'm already spending too much time on OSM, as it is.
>
> It's quite easy actually, I use an RSS feed to warn me about it. Just
> mark a bounding box:
>
> http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/
>
> My bounding box would comprise all of Belgium...


> When I see something that catches my attention, I analyse the changeset
> here:
>
> http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de
>
> I'll have to try that one. I wasn't aware of it. Thanks


> You can quickly glance over the tags and/or see the visual changes done.
>  Quite the tool, wish it was an easier thing to get it running myself,
> there is a waiting queue from time to time.  It's a java based so not my
> favorite setup.  JOSM is about the only java tool I think works excellent.
>
> >
> > Talking to people in Namur is a good idea, but I think many of the
> > people going there are already 'converted' or already part of the
> community.
>
> It is my impression that is not the case in fact, remember, OSM is only
> talked about for a good hour or so.  It is the ideal harvesting grounds
> however as the visitors there have the Open Data mindset.  But it is far
> bigger than just OSM.  I'll ask the question in my presentation and
> thank them ;-)
>
> Sounds good.


> > It's those new and occasional mappers we should welcome with open arms
> > and introduce gently.
>
> As long as they start small, I'm fine. I started out with tiny edits
> before growing into it.  the IT background does help.
>
> > Another good initiative would be to go and talk to people in
> > hiking/walking clubs or maybe even those places where 65+ learn about
> > working with computers. But I don't have time to do that either.
>
> Perhaps I should talk to the local chapter here, there are many people
> occupying themselves with the 'trage wegen' / 'kerkwegjes' etc.  I know
> a few of them -a bit-, good idea!
>

And I didn't even patent it :-)

Jo
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