On 14-01-15 19:30, Jo wrote:
> iD has many flaws, but one thing can't be beat about it. It provides
> (new) users with an easy way to enter into our world.

Perhaps I should try it out, I only tried out what it produces, so it's
frustrating.  I have the feeling from looking at the data that it
doesn't take the existing data into account, when someone marks a
speed_camera, it's usually not connected to the way, but right on top of
it however (not taking into account the missing relations that should be
created for enforcements).

> What happens after that, is entirely up to us. Personally, I'm not
> actively monitoring the edits in my neighbourhood. Maybe I should, but
> I'm already spending too much time on OSM, as it is.

It's quite easy actually, I use an RSS feed to warn me about it. Just
mark a bounding box:

http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/

When I see something that catches my attention, I analyse the changeset
here:

http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de

You can quickly glance over the tags and/or see the visual changes done.
 Quite the tool, wish it was an easier thing to get it running myself,
there is a waiting queue from time to time.  It's a java based so not my
favorite setup.  JOSM is about the only java tool I think works excellent.

>
> Talking to people in Namur is a good idea, but I think many of the
> people going there are already 'converted' or already part of the
community.

It is my impression that is not the case in fact, remember, OSM is only
talked about for a good hour or so.  It is the ideal harvesting grounds
however as the visitors there have the Open Data mindset.  But it is far
bigger that just OSM.  I'll ask the question in my presentation and
thank them

> It's those new and occasional mappers we should welcome with open arms
> and introduce gently.

As long as they start small, I'm fine. I started out with tiny edits
before growing into it.  the IT background does help.

> Another good initiative would be to go and talk to people in
> hiking/walking clubs or maybe even those places where 65+ learn about
> working with computers. But I don't have time to do that either.

Perhaps I should talk to the local chapter here, there are many people
occupying themselves with the 'trage wegen' / 'kerkwegjes' etc.  I know
a few of them -a bit-, good idea!


Glenn


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