Hi John, That would be great! An email forwarded to the list saying we can use the data royalty free should be enough as long as it is from someone official enough at Gautrain.
With regards to bulk merging. I don't think that is going to happen as there is already so much data. The best would be to split the data per route, convert to osm usable format and merge and import as needed. Plus of course updating the necessary relations. Regards On 2 May 2014 15:14, John <john....@gmail.com> wrote: > I may be able to get a list of all bus stops including GPS coordinates > directly from Gautrain. > > Two questions: > > 1) What "permissions" do we need to get for this to be usable on OSM? > 2) Is there someone who could assist to bulk load the data. > > On the second point I would be happy to do some preprocessing. e.g. > Correlation against against a list of what has already been captured. > > Regards, > John > > > > On 22 November 2013 08:46, Dawid Loubser <da...@travellinck.com> wrote: > >> Copyright law cannot prohibit the manual reconstruction of >> publically-available information any more than what it can control an >> internet search engine like https://www.duckduckgo.com from indexing and >> serving that information when you do a web search. There is, consequently, >> no legal problem at all in looking at information on e.g. the official >> Gautrain bus map, and updating OpenStreetMap based on this. >> >> Gerhardus' method is more in the "spirit of OpenStreetMap" though - as >> OSM frowns upon the copying of information from commercial or proprietary >> sources. >> Ultimately - nobody will even know: there is no >> legalistically-distinguishable difference between adding something because >> you were there, vs adding something because you saw it on another map. >> (Obviously you should only add things to the map that you have verified >> actually exists.) >> >> When I added the gautrain bus routes that I have actually travelled on, I >> still used the official gautrain bus map as a reference: to correlate the >> positioning and get the metadata (stop numbers, etc). Nobody can prove >> which one I used "more" though - their map, or my on-the-ground observation. >> >> I wouldn't worry too much. Grant needs to worry more, now that he's added >> a "state secret" (Nkandla) to the map :-) >> >> -- >> Dawid Loubser <da...@travellinck.com> >> >> Op Do, 2013-11-21 om 20:46 +0000 skryf Gerhardus Geldenhuis: >> >> Well ideally you should travel with GPS in hand and map the stops. That >> way there is not licensing dispute at all and where the busses stop is >> public knowledge that you have recorded in OSM. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> On 21 November 2013 19:08, John <john....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the feedback. I probably need to try JOSM again. >> >> >> How about copy right? Can we use from the published Gautrain maps as >> source? In the case of public transport surely it is public domain?? >> >> We always come back to this, apologies, but it does seem a bit different >> with a public transport vs propriety. We are after all not copying the map, >> simply the stops and the route?? Alternatively do we ask permission? >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> On 21 November 2013 10:25, Gerhardus Geldenhuis < >> gerhardus.geldenh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Just echoing Dawid, JOSM will be your friend for relational editing if >> you not already using it. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> On 21 November 2013 08:18, Dawid Loubser <da...@travellinck.com> >> wrote: >> >> Nice work in the Midrand area, John! The Gautrain Bus Route is really >> looking swell overall (Six months ago there was barely anything). >> >> With regards to the order of the stops in the relation, I am afraid iD >> (in-browser editor) is a little bit limited - the only way that I am aware >> of, is to add the stops to the relation in chronological order - the order >> seems to be maintained. To view the order of the items in the relation, >> just "open" the relation for editing, and in the left-hand toolbar, scroll >> down to where the "members" are listed - you will see all members (in >> order). >> >> Otherwise, check out the JOSM editor for finer-grained editing tasks like >> these. >> >> Happy mapping! >> (or do we say "Merry Mapping" this time of year...?) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ZA mailing >> listTalk-ZA@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ZA mailing list >> Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ZA mailing list > Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za > > -- Gerhardus Geldenhuis
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