Copyright law cannot prohibit the manual reconstruction of publically-available information any more than what it can control an internet search engine like https://www.duckduckgo.com from indexing and serving that information when you do a web search. There is, consequently, no legal problem at all in looking at information on e.g. the official Gautrain bus map, and updating OpenStreetMap based on this.
Gerhardus' method is more in the "spirit of OpenStreetMap" though - as OSM frowns upon the copying of information from commercial or proprietary sources. Ultimately - nobody will even know: there is no legalistically-distinguishable difference between adding something because you were there, vs adding something because you saw it on another map. (Obviously you should only add things to the map that you have verified actually exists.) When I added the gautrain bus routes that I have actually travelled on, I still used the official gautrain bus map as a reference: to correlate the positioning and get the metadata (stop numbers, etc). Nobody can prove which one I used "more" though - their map, or my on-the-ground observation. I wouldn't worry too much. Grant needs to worry more, now that he's added a "state secret" (Nkandla) to the map :-) -- Dawid Loubser <da...@travellinck.com> Op Do, 2013-11-21 om 20:46 +0000 skryf Gerhardus Geldenhuis: > Well ideally you should travel with GPS in hand and map the stops. > That way there is not licensing dispute at all and where the busses > stop is public knowledge that you have recorded in OSM. > > > > Regards > > > > On 21 November 2013 19:08, John <john....@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback. I probably need to try JOSM again. > > > > How about copy right? Can we use from the published Gautrain > maps as source? In the case of public transport surely it is > public domain?? > > We always come back to this, apologies, but it does seem a bit > different with a public transport vs propriety. We are after > all not copying the map, simply the stops and the route?? > Alternatively do we ask permission? > > > > Regards, > > John > > > > > > > On 21 November 2013 10:25, Gerhardus Geldenhuis > <gerhardus.geldenh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Just echoing Dawid, JOSM will be your friend for > relational editing if you not already using it. > > > > Regards > > > > On 21 November 2013 08:18, Dawid Loubser > <da...@travellinck.com> wrote: > > Nice work in the Midrand area, John! The > Gautrain Bus Route is really looking swell > overall (Six months ago there was barely > anything). > > With regards to the order of the stops in the > relation, I am afraid iD (in-browser editor) > is a little bit limited - the only way that I > am aware of, is to add the stops to the > relation in chronological order - the order > seems to be maintained. To view the order of > the items in the relation, just "open" the > relation for editing, and in the left-hand > toolbar, scroll down to where the "members" > are listed - you will see all members (in > order). > > Otherwise, check out the JOSM editor for > finer-grained editing tasks like these. > > Happy mapping! > (or do we say "Merry Mapping" this time of > year...?) > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ZA mailing list > Talk-ZA@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-za
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