Hi Tom,

I am running Window-Eyes with build 2004 on both Windows 10 Home and Pro with 
no problems.
At one time, there were a number .of apps which cause errors and prevented 
Window-Eyes from even starting.
You can get Window-Eyes to start without apps running by starting Window-Eyes 
and then immediately holding down the Shift key and holding it down until it 
starts.
In the Window-Eyes control panel, in the Apps menu, there is an option called 
App Management.
If you then open App Management using right arrow, the first option is called 
App Status.
You can then press right arrow again and then one of three options wil always 
be checked, On, Off, or Manual.
Indeed, holding down the Shift key when you start Window-Eyes sets Apps to 
Manual.
Normally, it will be set to On, and once you disable whatever apps you think 
may be causing problems, you would set it to On.
A while back, the following apps caused me problems until I disabled them, 
although they don't seem to be doing so now.
Anyway, you could disable all of these, and Window-Eyes will work fine.
Eloquence Fix
Hotspot
JAWS quick key
WEDiag
Windows Enhanced

You would then just set your app status back to On and you should be good to go.
You should also probably shut down and then restart Window-Eyes.

Good luck,

Rod

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-----Original Message-----
From: Talk <talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> On 
Behalf Of Tom via Talk
Sent: September 4, 2020 2:57 PM
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Cc: Tom <miscp...@pa321.net>
Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4

Rod,

Are you using Windows 10 Pro? In fact, for everybody who have WE 10 working 
with WE 9.5.4 wonder which version of Windows you are using.

I am using Windows 10 pro and could that be the difference?

Window-Eyef won't even load for me in 10, it displays four or five balloons it 
immediately shuts down. I don't even have a chance to turn off apps.

The tech who installed 9.5.4 for me was kind of baffled although he did do some 
kind work around but when he left the work around stopped going around, ha.

Tom

** Your Message **
 >Hi Tom,
 >
 >At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or 
 >uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10.
 >On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no 
 >longer true.
 >Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here.
 >A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they 
 >had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server.
 >No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very 
 >surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes 
 >server.
 >I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update 
 >server was not active.
 >My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes 
 >working for the many people throughout the world who need it.
 >I am one of those who need it.

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