> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:legal-talk- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iván Sánchez Ortega > Sent: 08 October 2008 23:21 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Spam] Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Paid services from OSM > > El Miércoles, 8 de Octubre de 2008, Frederik Ramm escribió: > > > "Database" A collection of Data arranged in a systematic or > methodical > > > way and individually accessible by electronic or other means offered > > > under the terms of this Licence. This includes the Database as > protected > > > by Database Rights or by copyright and neighbouring rights law. > > > > But it says "or other means", so it doesn't have to be electronic? In my > > eyes a printed telephone book fits the above description perfectly: It > > is arranged in a systematic way and individually accessible by (other) > > means. > > OK, OK, phonebooks qualify, and microfiches qualify too. > > > [...] But what if obfuscation happens "naturally". > > > > E.g if you look at yournavigation.org [...] Anyone > > also wanting to provide the service theoretically only needs that highly > > compressed indexed file, but without documentation or the code that > > creates/uses it, it would be really hard to use that file for anything. > > I definitely think we need some lawyer to step into the conversation. >
My experience is that if we can capture what we want to achieve that lawyers will be very good at spotting all the issues of definition and the ways around what we are trying to achieve. In general though, we need to remember that we should err on the side of allowing things to happen not stopping the happen. Can people look to capture any conclusions on the wiki page, either in the 'brief' section or in the 'use cases' section? Possibly we need to add some black-hat use cases that we what to protect against. Possibly we also need a 'questions for lawyer' section.... I do wish we had some input from the OSMF on all this, however we can still queue up the questions in an orderly form on the wiki for them when they do appear. Peter > > Otherwise, let's keep in mind that the EU DB directive, just as IP laws, > has > been written to ""protect"" the stuff, not allowing people to copy and use > the stuff on a copyleft basis. > > Adding some bits about well-known data interchange standards, or data > specifications, seems to me like a sensible addition to the text of the > ODbL. > > > > -- > ---------------------------------- > Iván Sánchez Ortega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Proudly running Debian Linux with 2.6.26-1-amd64 kernel, KDE 3.5.9, and > PHP > 5.2.6-3 generating this signature. > Uptime: 00:11:05 up 48 days, 12:06, 4 users, load average: 1.09, 0.74, > 0.56 _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
