Thanks for weighing in everyone. Based on the discussion, here are the immediate adjustments I'm seeing shaking out from this thread:
1. Don't mandate, but recommend/offer attribution mark 2. Make it clear that /copyright is scrollable 3. Let's do an alt text to make sure we're on Google's radar ;) 4. Make sure mark is easy to embed The feedback on the proposed direction here has been largely positive, so I'd like to take further work to the pull request on GitHub [1]. John Firebaugh and I are ready to work with Tom Hughes and others to get this change to a point where it's good to merge into osm.org. [1] https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/180 There are two topics that I'd like to discuss on this thread though: (1) The BY in BY OSM Several arguments where made that 'by' might be misleading. So, Saman and I have been going through alternatives to "BY" before too, namely: - "WITH" - no addition at all - "DATA BY" - and others We kept circling back to "BY" as it's just really short and sticky and works in the image and it signals attribution. As a mark on a map we're operating on a 15,000 feet level, the distinction between these predicates is fuzzy at best. Even if we go explicit and say "Powered by OSM" it would still look to most like the entire map is just made by OpenStreetMap. Our job to explain OpenStreetMap is when a visitor clicks through, this is where we show "OpenStreetMap powers map data on hundreds of web and mobile apps" [2] or "[INSERT MAP USER HERE] uses maps powered by data from OpenStreetMap" [3]. [2] http://osmlab.github.io/attribution-mark/copyright/ [3] http://osmlab.github.io/attribution-mark/copyright/?name=Stamen&image=tile.stamen.com/watercolor/10/164/396.jpg&vendor=Stamen&vendorURL=maps.stamen.com (2) Do no image mark at all There's a really compelling reason to do a visual mark: it has character and it's pretty which in turn allows us to attach meaning: "Community" and "open data". The [BY OSM] image mark is something we can make *a thing*, use in campaigns, print on T-shirts, make badges for our web sites, add to data visualizations and reference in blog posts as a symbol of "this is open data, sourced by a community of mappers". This is not possible with "(c) OpenStreetMap contributors". That said, against the initial proposal I think we can't require an image mark or introduce a fuzzy "use unless not possible" but should just offer it as an alternative to "(c) OpenStreetMap contributors". On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Alex Barth <a...@mapbox.com> wrote: > Hello everyone - > > I'd love to start pushing again on the OSM attribution mark. > > This is an updated proposal based on an initial RFC from earlier this year > titled "Contributor Mark" [1, 2]. Sorry for the delay in following up with > adjustments based on feedback on the original thread. > > Again, the goal of this proposal is to draw more attention to > OpenStreetMap wherever it's used by introducing a visually compelling, > linked symbol for placement on OSM-based works and by explaining > OpenStreetMap better at the place where this symbol links to. > > Looking forward to your feedback. I'll also be reaching out to > corresponding working groups and OSMF to see how we can move this forward. > > Concretely, this RFC proposes > > 1. Replace current credit "© OpenStreetMap Contributors" with a visual > mark where possible > 2. Update `openstreetmap.org/copyright`<http://openstreetmap.org/copyright>to > explain better OSM, to invite visitors to join and to allow creators of > derivative work to link back to their sites. > > The update to the original RFC brings 4 key changes: > > 1. Rename the proposal from 'Contributor Mark' to 'Attribution Mark' > 2. A completely redesigned mark, containing the letters "OSM" > 3. A completely redesigned `/copyright` page, the page the mark links to. > It is much closer to today's `/copyright` > 4. The mark is an alternative to "© OpenStreetMap Contributors". Only > where the mark can't be used, "© OpenStreetMap Contributors" may be used. > > Please read up on all details on the newly created RFC page: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RFC_Attribution_Mark > > Also take a look at the repository containing artwork and code: > > https://github.com/osmlab/attribution-mark > > Alex > > -- > > [1] Initial RFC > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-January/065784.html > [2] Feedback summary > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-January/065860.html > >
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