Hello Jonathan,

On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 at 6:19:56 PM you wrote in
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JA> Guess I need to give an example... Take... erm... SubSeven. Has a
JA> small program that 'encapsulates' files... Run it onto a .jpg file it
JA> increases the .jpg file by maybe 300kb... file extension is *still*
JA> .jpg (no hidden extensions, or anything like that), and the file is
JA> now executable, and causes infection with the subseven trojan.

If this is true IE simply parses the beginning of that file and executes a
system call as already mentioned in

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Try installing "Irfan View" (http://www.irfanview.com/) and make it handle
'.jpg' files per default.

Now open the file 'the normal way', I assume you double clicked it.
See IrfanView give your the error message and check if the infection is
still done?! No? I guess so it's not! Why? Because IE su**z and tries to be
'clever' ... it executes system calls similar to when you type

start my_document.doc

on command line (which opens Word or whatever is assigned to handle
'.doc'), without any serious reason. If a file is named '.jpg' and IE is
setup to handle '.jpg' and it knows '.jpg' is _an image format_, it should
only call functions to render an (JPG-)image, nothing more, nothing less.
If this image is invalid an error message has to appear. Nothing more,
nothing less. No additional execution of whatever.

But as already mentioned: try this with IrfanView, and I guess (I nearly
bet my *** *G*) it wont execute even a single bit of malicious code :-)
-- 
Regards
Peter Palmreuther                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2)

When you don't have an education, you've got to use your brains. 
- Anonymous -


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