Paul Cartwright > I had an earthlink account a while back, and TB worked for me, no problem. +++++ Right. It worked perfectly until Earthlink changed their mail settings on 1 September. The problem is that since they don't support TB and since the logical substitutions of new settings for old didn't work, they wouldn't help me.
Paul Cartwright > ... did you try using the web interface, did it work? have you tried using another email program ... to see if you get the same results? Tim > If you suspect Earthlink is the problem, why not install something they do support. +++++ I tried my backup, Eudora. I don't use Microsoft e-mail clients on principle. Eudora didn't work because I have 3.0. What Earthlink didn't, wouldn't, couldn't tell me--because the help desk folks follow a script and don't, won't, can't think outside the box--is that the new settings have extra authorization requirements. I knew TB could handle this and I reviewed the settings with "Rhoda" (not her real name), and "Max" (ditto), who kept repeating the script: Sorry, we don't support ... The Bat? Can you spell that please? No, I don't know what "RFC 2554" means. Sorry, we don't support ... The Bat? Can you spell that please? They suggested that I start using Outlook. But I don't use Microsoft e-mail clients on principle. We had a double circular discussion going. After experimenting with the mail settings, I am now able to download as well as send. This seemed to happen spontaneously; I've no idea how. Here are the settings that work: Account Properties Send mail SMTP Server smtpauth.earthlink.net Connection Regular Port 25 Authentication _x_ Perform SMTP Authentication (RFC 2554) ___ Use settings of Mail Retrieval _x_ Use specific settings (greyed out: Store password on the token) User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Password ************** ___ Require secure (MD5) authentication ___ Use "POP before SMTP" authentication Receive mail Mail Server pop.mindspring.com User username Password ************** Connection Regular Protocol POP3 Port 110 Authentication _x_ Regular ___ MSN (NTLM) ___ MD5 APOP Challenge/Response (RFC-1734) ___ MD-5 CRAM-HMAC Challenge/Response (RFC-2095) (token MD-5 CRAM-HMAC Challenge/Response greyed out) ___ Do not store password, prompt on mail retrieval Hope this is helpful to someone else. Earthlink domain mail settings (mine is Mindspring) can be looked up on their site. I still think Ritlabs needs to contact Earthlink et al. and educate them. Cheers, and thanks for all the advice. Deborah -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] running The Bat v 2.00.6 ________________________________________________ Current version is 3.00.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html