Paul Cartwright > I had an earthlink account a while back, and TB
worked for me, no problem.
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Right. It worked perfectly until Earthlink changed their mail settings
on 1 September. The problem is that since they don't support TB and
since the logical substitutions of new settings for old didn't work,
they wouldn't help me.

Paul Cartwright > ... did you try using the web interface, did it
work? have you tried using another email program ... to see if you get
the same results?
Tim > If you suspect Earthlink is the problem, why not install
something they do support.
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I tried my backup, Eudora. I don't use Microsoft e-mail clients on
principle. Eudora didn't work because I have 3.0. What Earthlink
didn't, wouldn't, couldn't tell me--because the help desk folks follow a
script and don't, won't, can't think outside the box--is that the new
settings have extra authorization requirements. I knew TB could handle
this and I reviewed the settings with "Rhoda" (not her real name), and
"Max" (ditto), who kept repeating the script:
   Sorry, we don't support ... The Bat? Can you spell that please?
   No, I don't know what "RFC 2554" means. Sorry, we don't support ...
   The Bat? Can you spell that please?
They suggested that I start using Outlook. But I don't use Microsoft
e-mail clients on principle. We had a double circular discussion
going.

After experimenting with the mail settings, I am now able to download
as well as send. This seemed to happen spontaneously; I've no idea
how. Here are the settings that work:

  Account Properties
    Send mail
      SMTP Server     smtpauth.earthlink.net
      Connection      Regular
      Port            25
      Authentication
        _x_ Perform SMTP Authentication (RFC 2554)
          ___ Use settings of Mail Retrieval
          _x_ Use specific settings
          (greyed out: Store password on the token)
                User       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
                Password   **************
        ___ Require secure (MD5) authentication
        ___ Use "POP before SMTP" authentication
    Receive mail
      Mail Server     pop.mindspring.com
      User            username
      Password        **************
      Connection      Regular
      Protocol        POP3
      Port            110
      Authentication
        _x_ Regular
        ___ MSN (NTLM)
        ___ MD5 APOP Challenge/Response (RFC-1734)
        ___ MD-5 CRAM-HMAC Challenge/Response (RFC-2095)
        (token MD-5 CRAM-HMAC Challenge/Response greyed out)
        ___ Do not store password, prompt on mail retrieval

Hope this is helpful to someone else. Earthlink domain mail settings
(mine is Mindspring) can be looked up on their site.

I still think Ritlabs needs to contact Earthlink et al. and educate
them.

Cheers, and thanks for all the advice.
Deborah
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
running The Bat v 2.00.6
      





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