* Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> [2006-04-24 20:33:38]:

> On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 07:31:30PM +0000, NextGen$ wrote:
> > 
> > As I said previously, I don't think that Up&p support is a good idea :/
> > 
> > It's the eternal tradeoff between hidding a node and ease to use. If we
> > implement UP&P support, I strongly suggest that we implement Bonjour support
> > (apple's discovery protocol) too. And possibly Zeroconf 
> 
> What's the problem? We're only talking to the router, right?

No :)

do you know how up&p works ? it's using multicast : every one willing to will
get informations on the lan. Moreover, UP&P allows hackers to do really nasty
things. You know, what arp spoofing/ICMP redirect attacks are ? UP&P allows you 
do to
nastier things, more easily.

I don't know what to blame : the protocol or implementations. But in any
case, it's definily YetAnotherAttackVector until we have some MiM attack
protection... And even with it : It will be a convenient way to prevent
someone from using freenet on a "shared" lan.

... As long as it remains optionnal and NOT the default behaviour, I don't
mind... The problem is that if it's not the default behaviour, it's pointless
;)

> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What do you think about my thoughts?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is any of the developers available to be my mentor?
> > > > 
> > > > I will gladly answer any questions any would-be freenet developer has on
> > > > how the code works in order to assist them in building useful features. 
> > > > If
> > > > you want to apply for Google SoC then by all means do, but it looks like
> > > > there will be some competition.
> > 
> > If I'm allowed to be both a mentor and an applicant, I may help too.
> > 
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > Thomas King
> > 
> > Nextgen$
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