On Jan 14, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Tracy Reed wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 01:59:39PM -0500, Brian Mathis spake thusly:
>> There's a reason they are the big guys.
> 
> Slick marketing which appeals to the kind of guys who like to buy cool looking
> servers that talk a good game and stick me with their junk which isn't the 
> best
> fit for our situation but gave the big guy a warm fuzzy.

I'm sorry, but that's not always the case at all. I've used a large number of 
vendors in my career, and would buy HP over and over again until the cows come 
home, and it's not because of any slick marketing talk, but because I find my 
job of managing the "hardware" is easiest with HP equipment. The times when I 
*do* have to "manage the hardware" (which is rare), their support system works 
pretty damned good [generally at least, there's always a couple of cases that 
slip through the quality-control cracks, every vendor has it happen]. 

> I really don't expect to ever have to upgrade BIOS in a server.
> If I do that means it was broken when I bought it.  Bugs
> don't appear by themselves over time, they are there at time of shipment.  Not
> only that but there is mainboard BIOS firmware, DRAC/BMC firmware, and RAID
> controller firmware all in need of updating. That's just too much stuff
> requiring post-sale fixing.

That's just mis-guided, IMHO. Every piece of software and firmware out there 
has bugs. If you want the bugs fixed, you upgrade your software and firmware.

If you think SuperMicro is shipping you a "bug-free BIOS", you're fooling 
yourself.

> Wow. That's a mess of a url. I don't like to have to download the BIN file on 
> a
> desktop or laptop and then scp the file over to the Linux server as it is
> inconvenient.  We don't run a web browser or any GUI desktop at all on our
> servers as it is a waste of resources and not best practice. But I pretty much
> need one to copy and paste that url and navigate the webpage it points to.

# man w3m


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