On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Michael Tiernan
<michael.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I used to use zentrack, I loved it, it was very easy to use and deploy.

Thanks, i will give it a spin tomorrow morning.

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Tom Limoncelli <t...@whatexit.org> wrote:

> These requirements sound like you are describing RT exactly.  I
> realize that the decision was "not a technical one" and is not
> something you can discuss publicly, but maybe consulting with
> http://bestpractical.com/ can help resolve the issues (perhaps
> purchasing a support contract would ease fears, etc)

When i was given the task of finind a solutoin RT was the first thing
that came trough my mind.
Purchasing a support contract will not help however things in the "Art
of War" might.

>
> On the other hand...
>
> I've heard good things about:
> -- SugarCRM Open Source
I have deployed SugarCRM in the past but for the needs of the sales department.
Maybe i will look around in it, honestly haven't played around with it.

> -- Zentrack

Will test it a spin tomorrow, thanks.

> Since open source wasn't a requirement (just a preference), have you
> considered Remedy?  I believe they have a pre-packaged configuration
> that is a good basic helpdesk solution.

I haven't considered it and will look into it more in the morning.

> -- The Power of the Demo: Are they rejecting a system they haven't
> actually used?  Install your preferred solution on a VM and give demos
> to likely supporters.

Already did this, I have a environment for everything i found that
suits our needs prepared for testing.

> -- Make the dissenter think they are making the decision: If you ask a
> child "what do you want for dinner?" they'll ask for ice cream.  If
> you tell them, "Should we have hamburgers or hotdogs?" they'll think
> they're making the decision even though you've already made it for
> them.  (Worst of all: don't list choices one at a time, they'll keep
> saying "no" until you run out of choices: "Do you want hamburgers?"
> "no" "Do you want hotdogs?" no "Umm... well, we have ice cream"
> "yes!").

This is a good advice. I think i gave them too many choises.
From simple as OsTicket to Trellis, OSRT, RT and Cerberus...

> -- Take advantage of emergencies: In an emergency the normal decision
> process goes away. Can you create a situation (or wait for a
> situation) where you can get permission to install RT or ORTS "just
> for this one emergency" and then take advantage of the fact that
> "nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution"?)
> -- Bullies only respect other bullies:  Declare that your solution is
> the ONLY solution and brow-beat anyone that disagrees.

And i will probably try this approach next.


> If done right, these strategies could work.  If done wrong, you could
> be fired.  Proceed with caution.
>
> Tom
>

Thank you

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Patrick Cable <p...@pcable.net> wrote:
> It's not open source, or free, however WebHelpDesk works for us and has the 
> functionality you're looking for. Additionally it is extremely simple to set 
> up and configure.
>
> - Pat
> (sent from my phone)
I've never heard of this one but i will take a look, thanks.

-- 
Martin

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