Thanks, George, for confirming my similar suspicions. I've never thought of the Texas Caver or even the NSS News as particularly science oriented. (The NSS has the Journal of Cave and Karst Studies for that.) Perhaps instead of science the perception is that publications are too heavily biased toward expedition and project caving. I certainly find those articles most interesting because that's the kind of caving I've been doing for over 40 years, but I generally read every article in the Texas Caver, even if it is about a newbie trip to Airman's. I also enjoy keeping up with activities like TSA Conventions and TCR, which I am too far away too attend. So, I join the chorus of those encouraging everyone to write about their trips, even if they are sport trips with no new exploration or science.

I also agree with Ben Schwartz about almost all caving being fun, whether it's science, mapping, digging, whatever. We wouldn't do it otherwise. Expedition and project reports also generally mention the great camaraderie and fun times had around the campfire, hiking to the caves, etc. I've even been on cave rescues (all successful, fortunately) that were fun. So write about your trips, even if nothing new is discovered. Tell us how much fun you had, and let us share in it.

        Keep the faith, Mark, and keep up the great work as editor!

Mark

At 11:06 AM 5/17/2012, George Veni wrote:
Reading this e-mail exchange and the perceived focus on too many science articles in the TC made me think that I didn't recall any recent science articles. So I took a quick at the table of contents for the last nine issues through the start of 2010 and found a total of 60 articles listed. I found an abundance of reports on surveys, projects, and generally lots of "fun" (non-project/non-survey/non-sciency) caving Texas cavers are doing in Texas, with a small number of reports on caving in Mexico. I found reports on TCRs, TSA conventions, equipment reports, and news I expect most cavers would be interested in. I only found one article that could be classified as "science," a nice 1-page report by Jerry Atkinson and Butch Fralia on bad air in Texas caves. Considering how many Texas caves have bad air, I'd also expect this would be of interest to most cavers who generally aren't interested in science articles.

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