Hi Wolfgang, Thanks for all the comments. I complete aree with comments on drag, zooming and customising. All these things I am hoping to rectify with a massive code rewrite, I am hoping to package everything up to minimise the amount of installation required and also aiming to separate preferences so that they are not hard coded and thus the TagMindMap is easier to tweek.
Regarding displaying the whole content like hypergraph.. the big issue here is performance. Although possible I have seen it break big Tiddlywikis and alot here needs to be ironed out, but I agree this would be the ideal. I guess I came from it from a different angle, as what I tend to do is search for a tiddler/tag first then "borrow" through the TagMindMap to find the tiddler I am looking for (so it sits on top of the search bit). I will rethink this from your perspective and see if I can find an easier solution.. Thanks for all the feedback.. much appreciated :) Jon On Oct 11, 1:35 pm, wolfgang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jon, > > > and of course let me know how I can improve it.. > > .. thanks for having an open ear for suggestions. Though reading your > own 'to do list' athttp://preview.tinyurl.com/5yb26cit seems you're > pretty aware what still needs to be done to make tiddlytagmindmap > useful. - However, having it side by side compared with a more matured > hypergraph does show its real shortcomings very well. > > The most obvious: > > TagMindMap shows you the relation of an opened tiddler to immediate > tiddlers really nice - but it doesn't show an index or map of the > whole content, or the position in relation to such. And increasing the > dept of relation from 1 to 2 doesn't solves this, as it than gets > truly confusing. > > For example, just tried to find your tiddler 'Work to be done > (tiddlytagmindmap)' again - and it took me much more time than it > would have with the ordinary tabs of a TW of the same size of content. > So it doesn't replace the navigation of a TabTags or TagCloud yet at > all. > > And it's much harder for me than with hypergraph to have a doable > solution for this equal shortcoming (but maybe we just haven't found > the proper way to tag yet?) Nevertheless, necessary addition in this > direction I would consider: > > # the ability to customize its size: it wasn't possible for me to give > it a 100% width (or any other value) in the stylesheet to use more > screen space, since the nodes wouldn't synchronize with the position > of the cycles. Only by hacking the original plugin code was it > possible to give it some wider fixed value. > > # vertical size customize-ability: even more urgent because if an > immediate related tiddler is on a cycle above or below it isn't > visible. > > # drag ability: this would help much more than increasing its vertical > size, which is limited if one also wants to see tiddlers. > > # the ability to place it where and how one wants: first thing I did, > hide the slider button and toggle its div with a tiddlytools toggle > bookmarklet. I really like your idea of combining it with > TiddlyDesktop, but there it would be much more useful in a tiddler > than in the background, since only this tiddler would have to be > brought to the foreground, and not all others minimized for having the > overview. > > # zoom peripheral cycles gap and nodes out. > > # customize-able connectors between nodes: less obtrusive and than > maybe dept 2 would be much more useful. > > # don't combine its distribution with a custom TW like Mptw, but > stripe it to its essentials. Otherwise you make it harder to setup for > newcomers to TW. > > ... I think that already enough for now ;-) and that TagglyTagMindMap > will become a really useful contribution. > > Cheers, > > W. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
