@walt As to the node-flattening issue.... i would like to see "wikitext" join the > other 3 options (bullet list, numbered list and paragraphs) >
So when I wrote "an actual real world example of what their content in Streams is like, and what an ideal exported version in a single tiddler in TiddlyWiki would look like" my expectation was for users to provide wikis with a representative example of their content in streams nodes, as well as a single tiddler version of it that they created by hand. For example one tiddler with some stream nodes, the content of which is representative of what their content is usually like. Plus one tiddler that is an amalgamation of those nodes into a single tiddler. Having a few such examples might allow generalizing a few export options that fit most use cases. The problem with receiving proposals for solutions, rather than detailed description of the problem and related content, is that often the proposed solutions don't fulfil the actual needs or consider technical limitations they would impose. For example, your proposed solution would limit you to only ever having single line content in all your nodes. Regarding use cases/workflows, I was referring to the manner in which people are using Streams for note taking (the original subject of this thread). We have a few examples now from Keelan, Si and others. It would be good to gather the descriptions of their workflows and add it to the documentation. This could later be fleshed out with details on other plugins, or wiki settings etc that they use to achieve their desired workflow. Since there is not a single prescribed workflow for using Streams, nor a vertical TiddlyWiki edition designed to accommodate it, having examples of how people use Streams would allow knowledge sharing amongst Streams user and be useful to the next person who has the same question as you regarding how to use Streams for note taking. Help with collecting this to add it to the documentation would be greatly appreciated. The easiest thing to do would be to collect the information in a TiddlyWiki file. The other issue you've raised of particular interest to me is the mobile > UseCase <#m_3548407170148151557_UseCase> - which may be more properly > considered a UserModel <#m_3548407170148151557_UserModel> that could > serve as extension to various UseCases <#m_3548407170148151557_UseCases>. > This in my case involves using Quine2 on iOS devices: iPhone and iPad -2 > different form factors, which lend themselves to somewhat different modes > of interaction. What's needed here is the ability to manipulate position in > the hierarchy via swipe L/R, drag Up/Down. Is this what you're talking > about in that Reddit thread you shared > <https://www.reddit.com/r/TiddlyWiki5/comments/o4wfcq/streams_visual_feedback_for_swipe_experiment/>? > > Or is there some other mode of mobile interaction to consider? > Mobile usage is a tricky issue for TiddlyWiki. The design and UX really isn't optimized for it. In particular, the drag and drop mechanism doesn't work for all mobile browsers. This is a limitation of the browsers not implementing the relevant spec at all or properly. As such, implementing proper support for this is outside the scope of a single plugin. As I've expressed during earlier conversations on the same topic, I do not intend to work on any mobile specific features or affordances for Streams beyond any low hanging fruit that can be achieved with minimal effort. Currently in Streams you can swipe on a node on mobile to trigger the context menu. Add your own commands to the context menu is the way to go for any features you absolutely need on mobile. The interest in the swipe with visual feedback feature actually comes from a technical perspective. It is *very* impressive that such a thing can be achieved with just wikitext, so I would like to see it realized (time permitting) to serve as an example for others wanting to explore similar UX. Cheers, Saq -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9d9f575e-b880-4e3b-a0ec-da7f092b1932n%40googlegroups.com.
