Yakov,

No hurry. The plugins can always wait.

Wish you the best in your degree exam!

Vincent

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 3:27:56 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:
>
> Hello Vincent,
>
> I'll probably return to testing after 17th of Jan, after my Master's 
> degree exam (but may be take a look earlier).
>
> Best regards,
> Yakov.
>
> четверг, 3 января 2013 г., 10:30:15 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> It's been a while since last update. I had been, and still will be, busy 
>> on a big event here at the end of this month. Yet I managed to find time 
>> over the long weekend to do some works on the plugins. The alpha-3 file is 
>> available at 
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/pre_release-1.5.0-alpha-3%2B0.7.7.html.
>>
>> Comments/Suggestions/Bug reports are always welcome!
>>
>> I plan to release 1.5.0 on Feb 08, one day before the Chinese New Year's 
>> Eve. In this coming version most of the block elements -- tables, lists, 
>> headers, foldable contents (with FoldHeadingsPlugin), preformats, 
>> blockquotes, and blockexamples -- shall be editable. The name of the 
>> TWtable plugin shall be changed to TWtid (TW tiddler) in accordance with 
>> the feature expansion. TWted retains its name with a different meaning -- 
>> *tiddler editor* instead of table editor.
>>
>> Main changes in alpha-3 are
>>
>>    1. Move list items with Ctrl-up/down keys.
>>       1. Still primitive, please find bugs and tell me about them.
>>       2. Moving elements is complicated with the current code structure. 
>>       I plan to rewrite some parts of the codes to make it simpler.
>>    2. Added option chkTWtedInViewMode (default to true) to toggle 
>>    editing manner.
>>       - If set to true (the default), one can edit those editable 
>>       elements in TW's view mode while keeping the default edit box in edit 
>> mode 
>>       the same old way.
>>       - Otherwise the view mode remains just for viewing, and TW's 
>>       default edit box is replaced with a WYSIWYG-like editor.
>>          - In this manner one can still bring back the default edit box 
>>          by one of the following ways,
>>             - disable TWtable or TWted (re-enable to enter the 
>>             WYSIWYG-like mode again),
>>             - double-click in a no-element area (click away/Ctrl-Enter/Esc 
>>             to go back to WYSIWYG-like mode).
>>          3. Bug fixes for partial transclusion synchronization.
>>    4. Bug fixes for locating a missing cell.
>>
>>
>> Have fun!
>> Vincent
>>
>> On Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:17:49 AM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback, Ton and Yakov, I will take them into 
>>> consideration for sure.
>>> I'll be busy and won't be doing much on these plugins for several weeks, 
>>> we'll talk later.
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 9:32:46 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Vincent, 
>>>>
>>>> I played around with your latest prelease and can see future 
>>>> possibilities. 
>>>> On the other hand it would be nice to just have a no frills table 
>>>> editor. Table editing was always very difficult in TW and is now a 
>>>> pleasure with your plugin(s). I'am using the (stable) version 1.4.6 
>>>> daily and there I only miss the keyboard navigation you already 
>>>> implemented in prereleases. A (stable) 1.4.x release with added 
>>>> keyboard navigation would be much appreciated. 
>>>> I second Yakov's remarks about the Edit mode in the prerelease: do not 
>>>> combine general editing with table/headings/list editing. As Yakov 
>>>> already stated: there is no fallback anymore (at the moment you cannot 
>>>> even edit body text). 
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, 
>>>>
>>>> Ton 
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 11, 12:21 pm, Yakov <yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>> > Hello :) 
>>>> > 
>>>> >  > Good timing! 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Indeed! 
>>>> > 
>>>> > <<< 
>>>> > Well, during development I noticed that clicking a link can trigger 
>>>> two 
>>>> > actions: opening the link and the edit box, due to event bubbling. 
>>>> But I 
>>>> > didn't like it that way so I introduced the option to restrict it to 
>>>> one 
>>>> > action, either opening the link or opening the edit box. Now I know 
>>>> that 
>>>> > two actions can be expected in some cases, I will figure a way to put 
>>>> it 
>>>> > back. 
>>>> > <<< 
>>>> > 
>>>> > No-no-no, two actions were expected but they are not desired, so 
>>>> everything 
>>>> > is fine. I just want to be sure that there wouldn't be two actions in 
>>>> some 
>>>> > untested situations, that's what I was talking about. But as I 
>>>> understand, 
>>>> > you basically stop bubbling the onclick event, so that shouldn't 
>>>> happen 
>>>> > anyway, right? 
>>>> > 
>>>> > The new alpha looks good, but I have one important question: why did 
>>>> you 
>>>> > move inline editing into the edit mode? On the one hand, inline 
>>>> editing has 
>>>> > this nice feature that one doesn't need to scroll up to the menu -- 
>>>> well, 
>>>> > double-click now makes editor open right in place, but to close edit 
>>>> mode 
>>>> > one has to scroll up and click "done"/"cancel"; on the other hand, 
>>>> with 
>>>> > usual edit mode, one has a usual fallback to edit what is unsupported 
>>>> for 
>>>> > now. I think 
>>>> > * the ordinary edit mode shouldn't be hijacked, but rather two 
>>>> options 
>>>> > should remain 
>>>> > * there should be an option to be "permanently in the inline edit 
>>>> mode", 
>>>> > like it was implemented before 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Best regards, 
>>>> > Yakov. 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>>
>>>

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