I do agree Jon but at the same time if I understand what transpired it was
meant as constructive criticism and upon reflection Jeremy feels it is in
the best interest of the project to slow new feature development down a bit
and refocus his efforts. As a new comer I have to admit I am drowning in
the flexibility and the number of features already available much less
keeping up with all of the new features being added.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Jon <fiveri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I didn't like the recent post that provoked the review - it seemed very
> ungrateful to me.
>
> I use tiddlywiki every day and it has revolutionised my study and I'm just
> thankful for whatever improvements I can pick up along the way.
>
> As far as I'm concerned it's a work in progress and people should accept
> that and focus on the benefits rather than any current drawbacks.
>
> Just my two-penneth worth.
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, 21 November 2014 12:27:26 UTC, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Several recent events have conspired to make me suggest that until the
>> end of the year I operate a moratorium on new features for TiddlyWiki5.
>> Instead, I propose to focus on documentation, and presentation of the
>> available editions and plugins. I will of course continue to fix bugs as
>> they are reported wherever it's possible to do so.
>>
>> (In the next few weeks I will also have to pay some attention to
>> TiddlyFox and TiddlyDesktop. In the case of TiddlyFox, imminent Firefox
>> architectural changes will require the architecture of the add-on to be
>> significantly updated).
>>
>> One trigger is obviously the recent thread discussing obstacles to
>> TiddlyWiki's success:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/_rScP9Lscdg/discussion
>>
>> A more subtle trigger is my recent experience with implementing the
>> "export" features for 5.1.5.
>>
>> I started work on those features on around 12 days ago, on November 9th.
>> I committed the first working code on November 10th. Ever since then I've
>> been tied up with fixing up the loose ends: making the strings
>> translatable, making improvements in response to feedback. Most recently,
>> I've been implementing nested popups so that the export button will
>> function when it is invoked through the "more" menu. The initial
>> implementation was quick and fun, but a lot of the work since has been a
>> slow slog.
>>
>> In my experience that is all pretty typical for a major new UI feature: 2
>> days to get the basic implementation followed by 5 to 10 days of working
>> through the edge cases and cleaning up. Of course, part of the reason it
>> takes so long is that alongside I'm still working on bug fixes,
>> documentation and the occasional new feature such as the tabbed table of
>> contents.
>>
>> The third trigger starts with the fact that I've been busy over the last
>> few days, and unable to participate in the mailing list threads as much as
>> I'd like. I've still been scanning the messages, and I'm drawn to the
>> conclusion that for many people here, some of the quite basic features of
>> TiddlyWiki are, thanks to the lack of documentation, indistinguishable from
>> voodoo. For example, Danielo's terrific recent post on the "variable"
>> attribute of the list widget was pretty interesting: another basic feature
>> that hasn't been well enough communicated.
>>
>> So, now that I stand back, I'm not at all sure that the work on the
>> "export" features was the best use of my time. It's an undeniably important
>> feature in terms of rounding out the interoperability of TiddlyWiki, but it
>> makes little or no difference to new users.
>>
>> My worry is that this will keep happening. There's plenty of voices here
>> calling for new features, and I'm naturally attracted to the intricate
>> problem solving required to implement them. I've a deep motivation to keep
>> smashing through the roadmap of planned features.
>>
>> Hence my proposal for a new feature moratorium. It's a simple way to
>> ensure that my attention stays focussed on the really important things for
>> the next few weeks.
>>
>> Some quick googling suggests that new feature moratoriums are not
>> uncommon:
>>
>> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=new+features+moratorium
>>
>> I'd be interested in any thoughts on this, and of course we'll discuss it
>> further at the hangout next Tuesday,
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com
>>
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