On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, der Mouse wrote:

>
> I hope not.  That kind of subtrefuge breaks things very badly in my
> experience.
>

Same old mentality, heard before on this list. It is already used all over 
the place for much more complex things than something as trivial as 
serving time and NO, it doesn't break things as I have demonstrated on 
this list before. I can re-post if you want.

>> NTP is a mess and nobody seems to care.  Like a timekeeper list
>> poster mentioned this week; It makes him feel "important" to serve
>> time to a bunch of people and there is no other valid reason to be a
>> member of the pool beside the fun of experimenting, watching the
>> traffic and maintaining stats.
>
> Death of volunteerism, again.  *Some* of us are here because we simply
> want to help others, for its own sake.
>
Yep, in 2007, organized crime is all over the net with 1,000,000 
computer distributed bots and they can shutdown any site by lauching and 
attack against it. I regret the good old days too, but things change you 
know ;-)

>> It is a pity that ISPs rely on guys like pool members to provide this
>> service to their customers when it is their responsibility.
>
> How is it their responsibility?  I don't see any reason why an ISP has
> a responsibility to run an NTP server - or any other server, for that
> matter - absent, of course, some contractual commitment to do so, and
> I've never heard of one that applies to running NTP.

That would be REAL volunteerism then, how can you be against corporate 
volunteerism for a good cause ;-)

>
>> If done right, the cost would be ridiculous for ISPs so it wouldn't
>> affect the price they charge for their services.
>
> Have you ever worked at an ISP?  I have - I work at one now - and,
> based on my own experience, you appear to have an unrealistic model of
> an ISP's costs.

ISP saves money in bandwidth by catching outgoing connection and 
ridirecting them to their own servers, Go tell your boss about it right 
now, you may even get a promotion.

And yes I have worked for quite big outfits.

Take care nevertheless ;-))

Louis
http://blogtech.oc9.com
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