On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 01:49:44PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>> Well, considering an abusive NTP client polling once per second uses,
>>> daily, less bandwidth than BitTorrent downloading an MP3, I don't think
>>> there is much savings to be had.
>>
>> You would be surprised to find out how top executives look at every
>> possible way to save money. Even pennies ;-)
>
> Sure, but its going to cost money to run your own NTP servers. If the
> capital cost (these are depreciating assets, after all) + set-up cost +
> present-value running costs exceeds present-value savings, then it
> doesn't make sense. I'm guessing it does, and considering how few (if
> any?) ISPs have done this, I think they agree.

Mine is one of the biggest in Canada and it runs ntp services on its web 
servers and on its mail servers. Have you at least tested this on your 
own provider (ftp,pop,dns,etc.) before jumping to the conclusion that your 
provider doesn't give you permission to connect to its time servers and 
that therefore you must have the pool to save the world. Have you phoned your 
ISP to ask if they provide time services ?

Presuming that providers do not want you to connect to their time servers 
because it would be way too expensive for them to maintain and that 
therefore we must use the pool is a mistake in my humble opinion.

In all my architecture works, I have always applied the following 
principle : Simple is beautiful.

The pool is way too complicated to qualify for "Simple is beautiful". 
That's why we get all sorts of problems DNS, peeks, etc. and that's why 
there will always be problems with the pool system. The core design of the 
pool is the problem. It doesn't matter how much we patch it, the problem 
will always prevail.

-Louis

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Louis
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