@rvalyi

My post is about this paragraph on Fabien's announcement. 


> "OpenERP'strategy is based on a unique ecosystem which combines the resources 
> of the community, of its partner’s network and of the editor. The community 
> contributes to the ongoing enrichment of the OpenERP solution. The partners 
> tailor the solution to customers needs and provide the customer support. The 
> editor guarantees the quality and the long term sustainability of the 
> software." 

and his own comment to post:


> "This fund raising will allow us to ensure the transition of our economic 
> model to focus especially on our core business as a software editor until 
> becoming large enough to ensure the profitability of these services :
> * Developing the product and new services such as maintenance and SaaS offers
> * Training a worldwide network of partners
> 
> Our objectives now meet what the community, the partners and customers expect 
> from one publisher : a durable quality software, a quick evolution of the 
> functionalities, an efficient communication, a suitable support and services 
> to partners."



So we are not speaking about what it is now but about future. See our case. We 
want to became partners. OK. We are ready to pay the annual price so if we only 
pay, we are starters, even if we have few customers with openerp working in 
production, but if we aquire units as is shown on partner contract we can 
became silver partners... 

> training purchase : knowlege of Open ERP,
> maintenance contract purchase : number of customers,
> modules certification : number of good modules published,
> 

So partnership is based only on money. That is a company who pays more training 
courses, more maintenance contract and pays to certificate modules... can 
became silver, gold or platinum partner. That is a way but I think it is not 
the correct one. 

This kind of partnership, would always benefit to big companies who can pay for 
it even if they are not skilled to implement openerp or they are really 
starters because they are begining. Big companies could pay 5-6-20 training 
courses made for starter people. Even if they are big consultancy companies 
they have to be starters some day... but if they pay.. they became platinum 
partner inmediatly? 
On the contrary, even if you want to pay... maybe you don't need training for 
starters because you learnt by your way. Maybe your customers can't contract 
maintenance directly with tiny because tiny can't mantain localization modules 
over the world. And maybe you are best python programmer in the world and you 
publish on commiters but your modules are not certified, and it's more... maybe 
you don't need to be certified. Simply is a good done work published to grow up 
openerp and benefit community. So.. why are you going to pay partnership? Even 
if you want why you should? simply to help or contribute in a monetary way 
buying in "Fabien's" shop. 

So I think, if partnership was a really collaborative and benefit for partners, 
creating new maintenance, training and different collaboration politics... even 
if we have got to pay we will pay really pleased.

In other side when you say:

[quote]

> every crappy editor makes it's own non sense certification exam. It becomes a 
> true business: you have to pay to get it otherwise you are nothing. 

No... sorry... if you pay and you PASS THE EXAM you are certified. And yes... 
it becomes a true business for tiny. Why not? For us is a way to contribute 
someway. Maybe it would be cheaper than partnership. And you are giving single 
people and not companies opportunity to colaborate and demostrate about their 
skills in openerp. 


> So lot's of people pay for it, but it can be very meaningless. Would guys 
> like us with dozens of production proof modules and real implementations have 
> to pay a trans-continental round trip to prove we are worth the new trained 
> trainee around the corner?
> 

Raphaël... who is speaking about trans-continental round trip? There is online 
universities, online courses, online certifications... we are online...


> 
> Moreover, every body here pay attention to the profiles of the guys that do 
> contribute to OpenERP? Are those guys working in large consulting firms?
> -> answer: not at all! Best contributors are typically 5 people integrators 
> (like the Spanish guys you mention which I totally respect) lead by skilled 
> guys that know perfectly how they should spend their time/investment rather 
> than having to get that from blind stakeholders and their good managers. 

So you are agree with me. I'm speaking about benefits for people who really 
contribute to grow up tiny and community individually each one. Not in the name 
of a company. You are the perfect example. Smile is partner... but Raphaël is 
Raphaël and a lot of people in smile know nothing about OpenERP even if they 
are working and paid by smile. But Raphaël by himself knows and contribute to 
OpenERP. Raphaël leave smile. Raphaël goes on contributing even if he is not 
working and paid by smile. Is my idea better explained now?

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