Hello,

> I fear you are playing with fire here. 

Of course, and I play with fire since the beginning of Tiny. And it has been 
proved that I am a good firefighter. When you want to beat the biggest, you 
need to take small risks, and you also need to compute the risks and avoid 
them. Especially when you run a fast growing company without financial 
resources, like Tiny. Every good manager has to play with the risk and limit 
it. I don't consider fund raising a much more bigger risk than our previous 
situations.

> Honestly, 3 euro for slightly under 30%? It feels to me that an EV of around 
> 10 euro is on the low end for what you have built.

I can't explain the detailed clauses of the contract but:
* It's less than 30%
* The EV 'can be' much more higher than 10m€

> Next time you need to raise equity, why not turning to the community. 

I thought about it. The reason of this fund raising is not because we needed 
cash: the Tiny company has been profitable in 2009.  because we are in front of 
a very big opportunity and challenge and we want to do a big step forward in 
the product, in our business model and in our services and I think we are 
mature for this. That's why I looked for several million.

If we needed some hundreds k€, I would have proposed this to the community. 
But I seriously doubt that the community would achieved to find 3m€.

> Would you know an investor that better understands to logic of open source 
> and that would have more full faith in you, Fabien, as our entrusted Editor 
> than the community? 

That's why investors are not part of the executives managers.

@rvalyi
>1) Tiny is not only the OpenERP product, it's also a company with some 
>employees,
> and I fear the situation here was not as good as the exceptional product they 
> made.
> I'm not sure whether all those 80 employees that were hired during the poor 
> times are
> a real asset or a burden...

Sometimes I feel like I don't understand how you think :) Of course our 
employees are part of the success of OpenERP, you can't achieve such a growth 
while being self financed if you don't have very good guys.

As explained above, you should not focus on the %age of the shares. The 
valuation is only a part of the contract. The contract has been efficiently 
negociated: we had several offers from others investors.

@anajuaristi 
We do all agree that they are lots of works to improve our partnerships. I can 
insure you that we are already working on it.




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