Well, I'm pretty happy that the general public doesn't think like a scientist, and I hope that day never comes.
Also, I think you can be an evidenced-based clinician who delivers fantastic client care and is be able to keep up with evidenced based treatment without caring about the science of psychology. I don't have to love carpentry and desire good carpentry practices be advertised and promoted to the general public in order to build a box based on sound carpentry skills. --Mike On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:24 PM, <tay...@sandiego.edu> wrote: > I completely agree with Rick. > > Anyone who is a clinician has all the MORE reason to be extremely cognizant > of the science of psychology; to wit all the crap therapy approaches that do > more harm than good, in which I define more harm than good to include those > therapies that do no harm but while they are being pursued keep a person > from pursuing evidence-based therapies. > > Finally, we should all be thinking like scientists in our daily lives; this > morning on the news a recent survey of US citizens shows that global warming > is last on their list of priorities relative to preservation of the planet. > Sigh. People in general do not know how to interpret scientific findings or > to know simple things like: one million testimonials are less evidence than > one single good, clean experiment. Double Sigh. > > And as Rick said, the empiricists don't need good people skills but it > helps a lot when it comes to disseminating information and as we can see by > the sad state of dissemination of good findings, perhaps this is an area we > need to develop. > > Annette > > Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D. > Professor of Psychology > University of San Diego > 5998 Alcala Park > San Diego, CA 92110 > 619-260-4006 > tay...@sandiego.edu > > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:42:42 -0500 > >From: Rick Froman <rfro...@jbu.edu> > >Subject: RE: [tips] Relevance of science to psych work? > >To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" < > tips@acsun.frostburg.edu> > > > > There is no accounting for interest and I am sure > > those interested in clinical and counseling work > > will not be as excited about research as those who > > are interested in learning about people and why they > > act the way they do. However, interested or not, > > understanding of the science of psychology is an > > important prerequisite to being a psychological > > clinician. As to Mike's equivalency: Research > > psychologists do not need training in human empathy > > and social interaction to do their jobs. Clinical > > and counseling psychologists need to use empirical > > research to inform their practice or they are no > > more than entrepreneurs selling snake oil. If your > > practice is not based on empirically-based methods, > > I think you shouldn't call yourself a psychologist. > > There are a number of names you can use for yourself > > that would not imply that there is an empirical > > basis to favor your techniques over anyone else's. > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > Dr. Rick Froman, Chair > > > > Division of Humanities and Social Sciences Box 3055 > > > > x7295 > > > > rfro...@jbu.edu > > > > http://tinyurl.com/DrFroman > > > > > > > > Proverbs 14:15 "A simple man believes anything, but > > a prudent man gives thought to his steps." > > > > > > > > From: Michael Smith [mailto:tipsl...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:31 AM > > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > > Subject: Re: [tips] Relevance of science to psych > > work? > > > > > > > > I personally have no problem with psych students who > > want to be clinicians not being interested in the > > "science of psychology". > > > > > > > > I always find it funny that the science types are > > sooo concerned that everyone should take science > > very seriously. > > > > Are the authors EQUALLY concerned about the state > > and training of the empirical psychologists' human > > empathy and social interaction skills? I bet not. > > > > > > > > And if what the authors are saying is true, how > > come there arnt oodles of positions available for > > empirical psychologists? :) > > > > > > > > --Mike > > > > --- > > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > > > Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) > > > > --- > > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > > > Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) > > --- > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) > --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
