Well, Marc, I fully agree. But, that won't happen until academia stops "selling," "promoting," and "advertising" a higher education simply as white collar vo-tech, higher paying job, credentialing.
Make it a good day -Louis- Louis Schmier http://www.therandomthoughts.edublogs.org<http://www.therandomthoughts.edublogs.org/> Department of History http://www.therandomthoughts.com<http://www.therandomthoughts.com/> Valdosta State University Valdosta, Georgia 31698 /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ (O) 229-333-5947 /^\\/ \/ \ /\/\__ / \ / \ (C) 229-630-0821 / \/ \_ \/ / \/ /\/ / \ /\ \ //\/\/ /\ \__/__/_/\_\/ \_/__\ \ /\"If you want to climb mountains,\ /\ _ / \ don't practice on mole hills" - / \_ On Nov 5, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Marc Carter wrote: I find it sad that so many students pursue a business degree thinking of big bucks when in fact the majority of them are going to wind up as office drones in a gray cubicle and making a merely decent living. Doing science is hard, but it's *interesting*, and studying it leads to some of the more high-paying jobs we have (they are, of course, outside the academy). I wish that we could get more students to realize that life isn't about money. But in contemporary America, the only values appear to be monetary. I despair sometimes… m -- Marc Carter, PhD Associate Professor of Psychology Chair, Department of Behavioral and Health Sciences College of Arts & Sciences Baker University -- From: roig-rear...@comcast.net<mailto:roig-rear...@comcast.net> [mailto:roig-rear...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 4:54 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Does College Kill Interest in Science? (I'm replying now with my signature line, which I usually delete, to see if that makes a difference in generating extra lines. I believe that the loss of formatting is more of a local problem, Bob). I think you are correct, Annette, and I wonder whether in addition to earning potential, students are also chosing subjects of study in terms of evolving norms of perceived career appeal. Relative to, say 20 years ago, do careers in STEM disciplines these days have the same general appeal as their business counterparts? My sense is that they do not and that for all of the current anti-corporate sentiment (e.g., OWS), the business path might be seen as a quicker, more efficient way to a comfortable and rewarding life. But, who knows? The real reasons for these effects are probably much more complex than what we have offered so far. _____________________________________________________________________ Miguel Roig, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. John's University 300 Howard Avenue Staten Island, New York 10301 Voice: (718) 390-4513 Fax: (718) 390-4347 E-mail: ro...@stjohns.edu<mailto:ro...@stjohns.edu> http://facpub.stjohns.edu/~roigm On plagiarism and ethical writing: http://ori.dhhs.gov/education/products/plagiarism/ _____________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by Baker University ("BU") and is intended to be confidential and for the use of only the individual or entity named above. The information may be protected by federal and state privacy and disclosures acts or other legal rules. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please immediately notify Baker University by email reply and immediately and permanently delete this e-mail message and any attachments thereto. Thank you. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: lschm...@valdosta.edu<mailto:lschm...@valdosta.edu>. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13368.9b8fe41d7a9a359029570f1d2ef42440&n=T&l=tips&o=13911 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-13911-13368.9b8fe41d7a9a359029570f1d2ef42...@fsulist.frostburg.edu<mailto:leave-13911-13368.9b8fe41d7a9a359029570f1d2ef42...@fsulist.frostburg.edu> --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=13912 or send a blank email to leave-13912-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
