I noticed that too, but i thought it was just me. So why is this happening?
Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: mbritt On Nov 4, 2011, at 6:27 PM, roig-rear...@comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > > ..... And why are there so many empty lines between my email header and my > message when it appears on TIPS? > > Miguel > > From: roig-rear...@comcast.net > To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" > <tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu> > Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 6:25:35 PM > Subject: Re: [tips] Does College Kill Interest in Science? > > > > > > > > I really have to wonder whether the issue lies in students' realization that > the financial and personal rewards of choosing science as a career are just > not worth the sacrifice. Think about it: years of doctoral and post-doctoral > grueling lab work, little guarantee of a tenure-track faculty position in a > research-oriented institution after graduation, decreasing societal respect > for the profession. Is it any wonder that students are not going into these > disciplines? > > Miguel > > From: "Michael Britt" <mich...@thepsychfiles.com> > To: "Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)" > <tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu> > Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 3:24:05 PM > Subject: Re: [tips] Does College Kill Interest in Science? > > > Annette, > > Your post made me think about an episode I had been thinking about putting > together on this topic of attracting students to science vs. the challenge of > actually doing real science. When I taught Research Methods and Statistics > for psych majors, a colleague who had a very different teaching style taught > it along with me. He was quite, shall we say demanding and I wanted the > students to enjoy the topic. As a result, I would guess that his students > probably came out of the course having learned more, but I think mine came > out of the course with a more positive attitude toward research and stats. > In other words, his students might have done better on Bloom's cognitive > domains, but mine would have come out higher on Bloom's affective domains. > Which approach is "better"? > > I agree that actual science is hard. There's no way to water down how > complex a repeated measures of anova is to carry out and analyze. I would > argue that when it's your study and your idea and your hypothesis, then > you'll put in the time to figure out how to calculate those complicated > stats, but you first have to have a positive attitude and you have to value > the scientific method. > > Michael > > > > > Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. > mich...@thepsychfiles.com > http://www.ThePsychFiles.com > Twitter: mbritt > > > > > > On Nov 4, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Annette Taylor wrote: > > > > > > > > I get a sense from this article and my own experience that in an effort to > hook students, the middle and high schools water down their programs. Then > when faced with real science in college it's a big whoopsie with the > professor taking the brunt of the students' anger at the disillusionment. > Maybe the hooking needs to take place in elementary school, and real science > education in middle and high school. Oh well, my speculation won't make a > whit of difference. > > Annette > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone > Mike Palij wrote: > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: michael.br...@thepsychfiles.com. > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13405.0125141592fa9ededc665c55d9958f69&n=T&l=tips&o=13890 > (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) > or send a blank email to > leave-13890-13405.0125141592fa9ededc665c55d9958...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > > > > > An article in the NY Times today reviews how the U.S. is losing > their science majors once they are IN college. The article is available > here: > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/education/edlife/why-science-majors-change-their-mind-its-just-so-darn-hard.html?google_editors_picks=true > > Some key points: > > (1) The focus here is on students with strong STEM backgrounds. > > (2) Science majors at big research institutions are more likely to > drop out of the science major relative to other less prestigious > institutions.. > > (3) As some of the comments to the article point out, people > with STEM majors and graduate study still have a hard time > getting jobs, especially ones that pay well. > > (4) For purposes of this article, psychology is NOT a science > (indeed, there is a case presented of a student with a strong > background in math, was an engineering major at Notre Dame > and switched to a double-major in English and psychology -- > he plans on becoming a clinical psychologist). > > By the way, I believe the APA and other organizations were trying > to get psychology recognized as a STEM discipline. 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