Jim, I have to say that I agree with you totally!! I feel that if anyone is going to do IVF that they should only create the ones that they are going to use. I also feel that if the only way for me to be healed is through embryonic stem cells then I never will be here on earth! I don't think that I could live with the thoughts of that.
Thanks for all that you do for us on the list! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Lubin To: Lawrence King ; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) I know I am in the minority in my believes, but I do not believe in IVF that creates embryos to begin with. If these embryos were not being created to then there would be no so called "leftover" embryos. Are you aware that President Obama signed H.R. 1105, the "Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009," on March 11th (2 days after signing the executive order to lift the ban on federal funding of embryonic stem cells) that contained the following: The text of Section 509 of the Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009, reads as follows: SEC. 509. (a) None of the funds made available in this Act may be used for(1) the creation of a human embryo or embryos for research purposes; or (2) research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death greater than that allowed for research on fetuses in utero under 45 CFR 46.204(b) and section 498(b) of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 289g(b)). (b) For purposes of this section, the term ''human embryo or embryos'' includes any organism, not protected as a human subject under 45 CFR 46 as of the date of the enactment of this Act, that is derived by fertilization, parthenogenesis, cloning, or any other means from one or more human gametes or human diploid cells. Guess he should have READ the "Omnibus Appropriations Act, 2009 before signing it into law... I followed the link on http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/FY2009OmnibusAppropriationsActPu blicReview/ to see if it was true, sure enough, it's in there http://appropriations.house.gov/pdf/2009_Con_Bill_DivF.pdf If you want to read it yourself, pg 128, lines 9 - 24. there are 2 pages inserted so it is page 130 of the pdf. At 05:25 PM 3/25/2009, Lawrence King wrote: whether you consider them blastocysts or babies, the couples who conceived them have already made the decision that they will never be born and have a meaningful purpose outside the petri dish. I truly believe the "parents" should have the right to decide the fate regarding the use of their unused fertilized egg's stem cells as well. ---- Jim Lubin jlu...@eskimo.com http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org
