Since I'm using the same vim config in both places, I wouldn't expect that to change anything, and indeed it did not.
-Robin On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 08:01:15AM -0700, Randy Stauner wrote: > I have tried to recreate this according to your steps and it does not happen > to me, > things look as you would expect them. > I tried zsh as well--no change. > > It does seem odd that even the prompt disappears in your example. > > This probably won't help, but might be worth a try: > Try putting this line in your ~/.vimrc: > set t_ti= t_te= > > That tells vim, also, not to clear the screen (like alternate-screen off). > > Does that change anything? > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpow...@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > It's vim, not less, and yes, it appears to be overwriting. > > > > The issue is that I don't have this problem in screen. > > > > OK, screenshots of screen and tmux (in alternate-screen off mode). > > Process is: > > > > [new window] > > # seq 1 100 > > # vim > > [type some crap] > > :q! > > [backscroll mode, up 10 lines, screenshot] > > > > http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/media/public/tmp/screen-backscroll.PNG > > > > http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/media/public/tmp/tmux-backscroll.PNG > > > > As you can see, the results are rather different. I can get this to > > happen on the same machine with the same terminal (PuTTY) config, as > > well, alhough on that machine the tmux version is 1.3 > > > > -Robin > > > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 08:54:42AM +0100, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > > > yeh just did, i don't follow what the 2nd problem is, can you send a > > > screenshot? > > > > > > note the history will only ever include what less actually scrolled into > > > it, even with alternate-screen off. if less redraws by overwriting or > > > otherwise does not scroll the screen, the history won't be changed > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:39:53AM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > Nope; see rest of thread. > > > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 08:34:23AM +0100, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > > > > > Turn off the alternate-screen option and it should change both of > > these. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 06:10:58PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I came, over the years, to rely very much on screen's backscroll > > > > > > behaviour[1], so certain aspects of tmux's behaviour have surprised > > > > > > me, and I'm wondering if they can be changed. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. When I quit "less", it goes away. I'm used to the output of > > > > > > less staying in the shell window/the terminal backscroll. I really > > > > > > prefer it that way. Is that fixable? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. When I launch vim or less, it ... this is hard to describe ... > > > > > > it covers the whole screen's worth of stuff. So, let's pretend my > > > > > > terminal is 2 lines and the backscroll is 5 lines; current status > > of > > > > > > backscroll is: > > > > > > > > > > > > 11111111111111111111 > > > > > > 22222222222222222222 > > > > > > 33333333333333333333 > > > > > > 44444444444444444444 > > > > > > 55555555555555555555 > > > > > > > > > > > > I then "less" a file of X and Y chars: > > > > > > > > > > > > 11111111111111111111 > > > > > > 22222222222222222222 > > > > > > 33333333333333333333 > > > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > > > > > > YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY > > > > > > > > > > > > This means that the 4 and 5 lines (which, remember, is an entire > > > > > > terminal-height's worth of stuff) are unavailable to the backscroll > > > > > > system; it is very common for me to launch vim and then use > > screen's > > > > > > backscroll to grab the last bit of stuff I saw, to paste in, but I > > > > > > can't do that if it's not there because the vim window "covered" > > it. > > > > > > Ctrl-z brings it all back, which is also jarring. > > > > > > > > > > > > #1 is much more annoying than #2, but I suspect they derive from > > the > > > > > > same terminal feature or whatever. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]: I'm sorry that I'm comparing tmux to screen all the time; no > > > > > > offense is intended, it's just the only comparitor I have. :) > > tmux > > > > > > is fantastic in its own right. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic > > future. > > > > > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this > > parrot > > > > > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > > > > > > is "na nei". 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