I also agree with you on the fact that JSP 2.0 spec doesn't mention about any detailed relationship between JSP 2.0 and J2SE 1.4. The spec and other related documents (JSR-152 official page) states possilbe use of NIO from J2SE 1.4 for better performance.
I imagine a new generation Java web container is going with a new generation Java standard platform. I'm just paying a lot of attention to opinions and decisions from those who are interested in or charged with Tomcat development. -----Original Message----- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:34 AM To: Tomcat Developers List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [5.0] [VOTE] Removal of the LE distribution On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Costin Manolache wrote: > Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 11:30:47 -0700 > From: Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Tomcat Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [5.0] [VOTE] Removal of the LE distribution > > iasandcb wrote: > > > First all, I vote > > <ballot> > > +1 [ ] Yes, remove the LE distribution > > -1 [ ] No, keep both distributions > > </ballot> > > > > Next, I'd like to make this clear: Tomcat 5 is based on JSP 2.0 > > spec, which requires J2SE 1.4. Therefore Tomcat 5 also can't run > > without J2SE 1.4 ideally. However, I found that the new catalina > > engine and jasper 2 compiler for Tomcat 5 don't mandate so. Is J2SE > > 1.4(or later) necessary for Tomcat 5? Or does Tomcat 5 support J2SE > > 1.3(or earlier) for backward compatibitity with disabled JSP 2 > > feature? My opinion on this issue is that Tomcat 5 should have J2SE > > 1.4 in compliance with JSP 2.0 spec basically. > > What ??? > > Where did you find this info ? I read the JSP2.0 draft and didn't find > such thing. It would be just stupid - I don't know any other spec to > require more than Java2 (i.e. JDK1.2+). > > If the final spec is aproved and includes JDK1.4 requirements - then > there's nothing we can do, we'll have to stop supporting 1.3 in the > official tomcat distibution. But given that now the 2 specs are > distinct - and some people use only the servlet spec, I think the > servlet engine and connectors should remain JDK1.2+. > The J2EE 1.4 (PFD) Platform Spec requires JDK 1.4. That is not directly relevant for Tomcat standalone releases. The Servlet 2.4 (PFD) Spec still says JDK 1.2 is the minimum (Section 1.2, last paragraph). This affects Catalina and Coyote code for Tomcat 5. The JSP 2.0 (PFD) Spec has implied dependencies on JDK 1.4, but I could not find any specific assertion to that effect -- cc'ing the JSP Spec feedback address above to suggest that this be clarified. This affects Jasper code in Tomcat 5. Personally, I think it would make Catalina/Coyote development, and Tomcat 5 packaging, a lot easier if we adopted JDK 1.4 as the minimum platform for Tomcat 5, but that is a separate decision from what the spec requirements are. > Costin > Craig > > > > > IAS > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:24 AM > > To: Tomcat Developers List > > Subject: [5.0] [VOTE] Removal of the LE distribution > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Before starting to release 5.0.x milestones, I would like to propose > > having only one distribution for Tomcat 5.0.x, and standardize on > > what the LE distribution contains (so well, it's more the other > > distribution which gets removed). > > > > It has some advantages: > > - it is slightly smaller (less these days now that the XML parser > > has to > > > > be shipped again with Tomcat) > > - runs as-is on JDK 1.3 (because of the Xerces inclusion) > > - 99% Apache or Apache-style licence (the JDBC 2 standard extension > > is needed for JDK 1.3 DataSource support :-() > > - less user confusion > > > > The main "problem" is that the user will need additional downloads > > for some of the more advanced features, and the package will also > > not run on > > > > JDK 1.2 as is (but from what I've seen, JDK 1.2 compatibility may > > not be > > > > a priority for developers). > > > > <ballot> > > +1 [ ] Yes, remove the LE distribution > > -1 [ ] No, keep both distributions > > </ballot> > > > > Remy > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- > Costin > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
