Dean Moore wrote: -I do believe that all false beliefs should be shown as foolishness.
jt: God is the one who will do this leaving us free to love people with the hope that they will be drawn to His son. *Sister are you suggesting that one cannot rebuke the sinner for sin as the Bible tells us to do. Isn't rebuking a form of Love? jt: The Bible isn't teaching us to go and beat the ignorant over the head with God's Word but to love them and share the Good News of God's redemption through Christ with them. Dean: Luke 17:3 .. If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him, and if he repent forgive him. I Tim. 5:20..Them that sin rebuke before all,that others also may fear. 2 Tim. 4:2 ..Preach the word,be instant in season, out of season; reprove,rebuke,exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. jt: The above are all written to the Church/community of believers. Dean: If we rebuke for sin then others will fear to do that sin and not have to pay the price for that sin. jt: This should be happening in the Church because sad to say there is as much if not more sin there and this is why we don't see the power of God as we should amongst the community of believers. Dean: This type of rebuke helps those that fear God-which most Mormon do not do. In their pride they ignore rebuke and laugh it off. jt: Because they are ignorant and don't know God Dean. They worship idols and are in a kind of religious bondage that will take more than histrionics in the streets to break. DavidM: When you say you will do it in honor of DaveH, are you saying this in irony, as if you really mean to hurt Dave? Dean: * Bro.David-I see DaveH as being led by the Mormon spirit and realize that I am battling a spirit not a man. I believe that DaveH is a worker of iniquity of the first order jt: But Dean you are dealing in the flesh with men when you wave Mormon underwear around outside their temple and when DaveH is personally mocked and demeaned on this list by you and/or others. * And how do you see his mockery of me on this list? In case you haven't noticed he has been mocking me for days now with his anger remarks-and he even spoke against the Holy Spirit of God and that seems to be ignored-but we are seen as wrong to expose those thing that a cult-that claims the name of Jesus Christ-uses to dishonor the very teaching of Christ himself. jt: When did he speak against the Holy Spirit of God? So far as the mockery I see it going both ways and don't expect to see any good fruit result from it. You are the believer Dean and to whom much is given, much is required. Dean: Sister I suggest you beware of seducing spirits from this reprobate. Esau and I have been here before-and each time he get young Christians to fight his battles for him-as he is doing now. jt: I'm aware of the Spirit behind Mormonism and it holds no attraction for me. Are you kidding? Jesus set me free, why would I want to go into that kind of religious slavery? I'm not fighting you and am certainly not fighting any battles for DaveH. Dean: At no time in our debate did I attempt to help Esau come to Christ-My debate with him was of one purpose and that was resist his teachings and expose them for what they are. He has heard enough preaching to save the entire world and has flatly reject the words of Christ-but still promotes Mormonism. jt: Who is Esau? Is he a Mormon or a believer? No offense if he is still on TT but I can't imagine a mother giving her child such a name. Dean: Now consider the words of Jesus Himself Matt.12:30 He that is not with me is against me,and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. jt: Oh, there is no doubt that DaveH is not gathering with the real Jesus or that he is deceived. Our responsibility is to hold up the light of Truth - not choke him with it. Dean: Simple the Esau spirit that DaveH enjoys is seeking to scatter abroad-who is he seeking to scatter-you- and anybody else foolish enough to listen to him on this site. He has rejected truth for a lie not once but hundreds of times even those here have proved their point on the words of Jesus Christ Himself-he has tried to pervert those truths into Mormon lies. jt: Yes, because he has been a Mormon for almost 50yrs and apparently he has not been penetrated by what he has heard so far but I don't know that God has given him over to a reprobate mind yet - do you know this for sure? Spiritual warfare happens in prayer as we take authority over religious principalities and powers and wicked spirits along with the assignments they have been given. Dean: Why not just pray for the Satan then and end the entire struggle? jt: Am I understanding you correctly Dean? Dean: How about Esau -he had Godly parents-surely Isaac would have prayed for him-yet he still went to hell. The point is when someone has proven to deny truth hundreds of times and resist truth to promote untruth- God often turns them over as I believe He has done to Esau/DaveH-and he has rooted himself deeply into this site. jt: Can you know for sure that God has turned him over to a reprobate mind? Deceived ppl don't know they are deceived. Dean: Seducing Spirits are named and warned against for a reason. Before when we had this debate I was rejected by the group on this list and DaveH/Esau was loved-DaveH has tried to anger me again soas I will say something hard towards him to get symphony from this list-just like any other reprobate-use people to get gain. jt: It's the devil that tries to ruffle your feathers Dean, why not love DaveH and in so doing heap the burning coals.. and upset the powers of darkness. Dean: Interesting huh? Love the sinner and hate the Brother in Christ-those seducing spirits will get you every time if one opens the door for them. Hopes this helps sister. jt: I say love em' both because love covers a multitude of sin and none of us have it all put together yet Dean. DaveH is opposing himself - how can you be angry at him? Grace and Peace, Judy ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." 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